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[CONCLUDED] Hyper Vs Hyper (Sonic: 6, Knux:9, Incon:1)

Good match!

The way I see it, Sonic's versatility is really the thing that snags him the win here. It would essentially be a stalemate due to having the exact same AP, and the slight (if at all) skill advantage Classic Sonic has here would be negligible. It would only be a matter of time until Sonic uses the Wisps or Ring Time here. And whule Knuckles has thise tbings as well, Sonic will definitely be more inclined to use them before Knuckles does.

My vote's on Classic Sonic here.
 
I would say Hyper Knuckles has more physical superiority in his fists then Hyper Sonic but I agree with everything else above.

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ShakeResounding said:
Good match!

The way I see it, Sonic's versatility is really the thing that snags him the win here. It would essentially be a stalemate due to having the exact same AP, and the slight (if at all) skill advantage Classic Sonic has here would be negligible. It would only be a matter of time until Sonic uses the Wisps or Ring Time here. And whule Knuckles has thise tbings as well, Sonic will definitely be more inclined to use them before Knuckles does.

My vote's on Classic Sonic here.
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Classic Sonic would not be more likely to use Wisps then Knuckles at all Shake, he only had them in Generations and because of time travel, outside of that he hasn't used them, meanwhile Knuckles actualy used them multiple times in Runners and TSR, and Knuckles is definitvely has a skill advantage here, Classic Knuckles is already comparable to Classic Sonic and this Knuckles is literaly more experienced plus can even scale to Modern Sonic's skill

I vote Knuckles via his skill and experience togheter with the fact he has used the Wisps way more than Classic Sonic and has used Ring Time as much as him, what really helps Knuckles is having way more fights then Classic Sonic had
 
I would probably say Hyper Sonic, since classic sonic battled knuckles and defeated him, and since both are hyper and can use wisps, I don't see how things will be any different here.

Also, Sonic have his hyper flash to immediately escape in another direction, and it can potentially and/or temporarily bilnd knuckles too (since it's a flash of light)
 
Gilad Hyperstar said:
I would probably say Hyper Sonic, since classic sonic battled knuckles and defeated him, and since both are hyper and can use wisps, I don't see how things will be any different here.

Also, Sonic have his hyper flash to immediately escape in another direction, and it can potentially and/or temporarily bilnd knuckles too (since it's a flash of light)
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Except Classic Knuckles lost to Classic Sonic, not modern Knuckles, modern Knuckles is comparable to Modern Sonic who is already stronger than Classic
 
Except Classic Knuckles lost to Classic Sonic, not modern Knuckles, modern Knuckles is comparable to Modern Sonic who is already stronger than Classic

Oops! Meant to say Classic Knuckles lost to Classic Sonic, not Modern Knuckles
 
Still don't think it would be any difference than before since Hyper Knuckles, Modern or Classic, is still At least Low 2-C
 
Yeah, and this is modern Hyper Knuckles, so Classic Sonic beating that Knux is irrelevant here, plus Knuckles has his own Flash attack that can paralise opponents up to 20 seconds
 
Gilad Hyperstar said:
Still don't think it would be any difference than before since Hyper Knuckles, Modern or Classic, is still At least Low 2-C
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Yes they have the same AP, but Knuckles has way more experience than his past self, being able to fight and sometimes even beat Modern Sonic, so Classic Sonic beating a younger and inexperienced Knux isn't relevant for this fight since Knuckles has grow from it unlike Classic
 
Sonic has the Hyper Flash that damages enemies caught in its path and also Time Break which can slow Knuckles to a crawl. I'm giving it to Sonic as those abilities would give him the edge here.
 
Knuckles has his own Earthquake attack that counters hyper flash, plus he could just dig underground to dodge it since he already knows the move, Time Break is a problem but Classic definitvely doesn't abuse on it, plus Power Flash should be able to do the same as time break by making Sonic into a sitting duck
 
Hyper Knuckles's earthquake shock is limited only when he glides fast enough, so he can't activate it as much as Classic Sonic, who can use it almost anytime he likes
 
If we are really using gameplay mechanics like that Sonic can only use Hyper Flash once per jump, plus Knuckles has hammer punch which does the same
 
Sonic:4 (ShakeResounding, ElixirBlue, Gilad Hyperstar, ShadowWarrior1999)

Knux:1 (Theuser 789)

Incon:0
 
Fair point. If it's only game mechanic then it's ok for him to use it on the ground. Sonic is still quicker with his Flash though so it wouldn't really change much as the flash counters the earthquake attack just as the latter counters the former
 
Theuser789 said:
Knuckles has his own Earthquake attack that counters hyper flash, plus he could just dig underground to dodge it since he already knows the move
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Sonic can just abuse his Hyper Flash and Knuckles will need to get out of the ground to attack Sonic, so idk how it really helps him
 
I vote Knuckles via his skill and experience togheter with the fact he has used the Wisps way more than Classic Sonic and has used Ring Time as much as him, what really helps Knuckles is having way more fights then Classic Sonic had

Sonic has explicitly said Knuckles' attacks are easy to read within Sonic Battle. You know what that means? It means that Knuckles could be in hundreds of more fights than Classic Sonic and it still wouldn't matter here if Classic Sonic has even remotely enough skill and predictions to dodge them.

Fair point on the Wisps, but the difference is that Knuckles doesn't have them in Standard Equipment. Sonic, however, does. So it doesn't matter, you can't use things you don't have. Also, Classic Sonic and Knuckles has used Ring Time the same amount. Difference is that Classic is more of a combat pragmatist than Knuckles is, making it that Sonic will draw ut quicker than Knuckles will.

So Sonic still takes this.
 
Sonic can just abuse his Hyper Flash and Knuckles will need to get out of the ground to attack Sonic, so idk how it really helps him

Hyper Flash still isn't going to do much damage thanks to invulnerability
 
The same can be said for Knuckles's attack as well since Sonic have invulnerability as well, so again, that doesn't really help Knuckles to win
 
"Sonic has explicitly said Knuckles' attacks are easy to read within Sonic Battle. You know what that means? It means that Knuckles could be in hundreds of more fights than Classic Sonic and it still wouldn't matter here if Classic Sonic has even remotely enough skill and predictions to dodge them."

That was just Sonic giving Emerl confidence and mocking Knuckles, if that was true Knuckles shouldn't even be able to hit modern Sonic at all which he can hit Sonic in his fights and his other Rlrivals as well, plus you are also ignoring that Knuckles has more experience fighting Sonic than the contrary in this fight and a more experienced Sonic did that cocky statment, so Knuckles knows how Classic can fight and counter it as well unlike Classic which in this time period only has one fight against Knuckles which Tails was even helping him while Knuckles has many more fights versus even more experienced Sonic and other foes

"Fair point on the Wisps, but the difference is that Knuckles doesn't have them in Standard Equipment. Sonic, however, does. So it doesn't matter, you can't use things you don't have. Also, Classic Sonic and Knuckles has used Ring Time the same amount. Difference is that Classic is more of a combat pragmatist than Knuckles is, making it that Sonic will draw ut quicker than Knuckles will."

Classic Sonic definitvely shouldn't have Wisps has standard when he only met them via time travel and he hasn't met one in his dimension, meanwhile Knuckles should have Wisps as standard because of Runners and multiple Wisps joining Knuckles in his jorney in that game. Knuckles is also a combat pragmastic, he definitvely is more hot headed and goes into fighting head first but so does Classic, Knuckles has show multiple times he can use his equipment to help him, also Knuckles has the Maximum Heat Attack to boost his attack power and Knuckles heal to heal damage, unlike Classic
 
Also thanks to you I reminded myself Classic Sonic shouldn't have every Wisp, only Burst and Spikes since he uses them in Generations, maybe the Runners one if he appeared in one of the special story missions, but he shouldn't have Violet Void for example
 
Gilad Hyperstar said:
The same can be said for Knuckles's attack as well since Sonic have invulnerability as well, so again, that doesn't really help Knuckles to win
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Digging makes Sonic unable to know where Knuckles is, plus it's a unknow attack to Classic so he isn't going to be expecting it unlike Knux and Hyper Flash
 
Theuser789 said:
Digging makes Sonic unable to know where Knuckles is, plus it's a unknow attack to Classic so he isn't going to be expecting it unlike Knux and Hyper Flash
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For the first few times, yeah, but after Knuckles will start spamming it Classic Sonic will start to expect his techniques as well
 
Except Knuckles won't spam the same moves before he finishes the fight, digging is one of his many ways to beat Sonic, he can just paralize him with Power Flash as well and use a Wisp
 
I'm assuming that's a vote for knux, correct me if I'm wrong

Sonic:4 (ShakeResounding, ElixirBlue, Gilad Hyperstar, ShadowWarrior1999)

Knux:2 (Theuser 789, Listentomyrhythm)

Incon:0
 
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