I might have been wrong in what I interpreted from your response, so my bad. However, maybe you didn't recognize the idea you seem to be giving to me. I had read it as substance bullshit because that's the only way I could substantiate your interpretation.
It isn't my fault you misinterpreted my claim. You extrapolated a lot from it and created counter productive points which lead to no where when you could've just taken what I said at face value. So giving you ideas isn't my fault although maybe I could have been more clear.
Nothing said that this is a special characteristic of Nen, and in fact, there's more reason to believe this is the least special part of Nen— the defense against bloodlust— that is accomplished in a way that's easily attainable by any verse. There's no explicit statements that explain that Aura has a special trait or that the technique has a special mechanism or method to it. It's just anime spirit energy sunscreen from bad vibes.
Nen is inherently different from other energies in the way it works because it is a different verse and that's how things work in the verse. The problem here is there are added mechanics to the normal aura that isn't present in other verses and verse equalisation doesn't mean new abilities can be added because of how one aura works.
Ten is a defense against malicious aura or aura that has bad emotions projected into it to cause certain effects such as breaking minds, paralysis and even death to clarify. Yes it's in an animanga but some aspects of it differ to the energies in other animanga.
Also the difficulty of attainment in verse is irrelevant to the differing function.
not "intangible Nen" (which sounds like you're adding more to the concept to me— that you think that Nen could go through other battle auras physically when that's not substantiated)
Nen is invisible and intangible, seen in many, many cases. Just look at the functions of it like En.
Nothing about the explanation of Ten implies that its designed for any other purpose other than keeping the Aura from leaving the body so you don't die of exhaustion. The defensive increases are both minor, marginal, and likely an unintended consequence of having the Aura just simply cover you
Unture. It's shown to defend against the malice of Hisoka and break the barrier that was paralysing Gon and Killua. The also weren't killed and their minds didn't break and this was the effects of basic Ten.
Again, Ten is literally no different in terms of defense than any other whispy light around an anime dude. There's more Lore and deeper applications of it than covered, but at the end of the day, nothing besides the mechanic and interaction itself sets Ten apart from any other Shonen Battle Aura.
This is unture. There's the aspect of defense against the effects of other aura which isn't present in many other shounen. Other auras don't have the same effects either especially death inducment.
Not only is it's simplicity apparent in how it's fleshed out overall, and implied in its use and very nature, but it's actually the simplest interpretation as well. If I abridged what Wing said into a meme, it'd be as simple as saying— "Hey, you two. Don't walk towards him without having Ten. Your bare skinned asses will die like albinos without sunscreen if you take another step."
Again simplicity doesn't matter at all. That abrige is just a gross oversimplification of ten which would be funny.
There's nothing to say that Ten shrouds do anything other than cover the body with energy and that's it. Not actively. Not as a "barrier" that requires effort— the word implies that it's an actual defense against anything other than what is really just an experienced individuals way of bullying children. No one who uses Nen in HxH would actually consider bloodlust threatening unless it's coming from a freak of nature that isn't supposed to exist realistically, like Meruem. It's so basic, that it's like knowing multiplication while a 6 year old barely knows addition and subtraction— the analogy being that those who don't understand it are dumb in the grand scheme of their reality, but that ignorance is understandable and expected from the perspective of those who actually know their shit. Think about it, Gon and Killua didn't even know about Nen Abilities when they first got taught the basics. They were that inexperienced. And just Ten...?
Wrong again I suggest you re-rrad the scene where Gon and Killua's Ten blocks the effects of Hisoka's En. So yes it's a barrier. No one sees it as threatening because everyone has nen and a defense to block thosr effects. Ok again degree of ease and attainablitu means nothing. Gon and Killua were prodegies found 1 in 10 million stated by Wing which is why it was easy for them. Nen is actuslly very hard to obtain which is why only a handful of people in the verse hard it when taking into account the billions in their world. Anyway this is irrelevant.
The point is, it's nothing more than a shroud. Then energy surrounding you, and as a weakness of the applications of bloodlusted Nen, if you put that basic shit on, you're totally fine. It's why Nen Crush isn't even really a thing to other Nen users in the verse— the characters we follow just have extraordinary experiences (good luck or bad) that make getting destroyed by someone's Aura bloodlust more common than it actually is. So, since Ten is simple, with no actual substance to it besides it being covering your body in energy, the burden of proof for other verses to do something similar is equally low
Again "Nen Crush" being a basic thing in verse is irrelevant. "Nen Crush" isn't a prominent thing in verse because everyone has a defence. The burden of proof isn't low at all. You need to prove other verse auras have the same or similar defence mechanism ypu can't presuppose it because "lol aura" being an aura doesn't mean they all inherently work the same way. Also "substance" is not the term it's an effect of it not present in other verses.
Lists include; Early Dragon Ball and up; at least in the anime they have Goku covering himself in a tiny aura on occasion. Ki is said to be invisible by toriyama and just like HxH doesn't have the auras surrounding them constantly, so you can get away with treating that similarly. Up to you. Later Dragon Ball makes this explicitly clear that you can use your aura to deflect and even dispel energy blasts. Goku once tore apart energy blasts just by powering up into SSJ3. The Auras have very strong tangible interactions with each other as well. I remember seeing their energy auras wrestke each other, and crackle together. What Ten does as a defense is essentially block the aura from reaching the user's body. It literally uses the user's aura as a shroud to defend against the aura of the opponent's, making contact with each other and the energies used. So, really, all you would need to prove is that the auras of the verse can make contact with the auras and energies of others in a way that protects the user if the shroud. Dragon Ball should definitely be capable of doing way more than that, since it does that and far more. Bleach; I've seen them flare an aura of Rei energy before and they constantly use their powers. You need to use your Reiatsu and shape it around your attacks constantly to avoid it reflecting back on you. Just because we don't see it, like in HxH, doesn't mean it's not there. Naruto: Jinchuriki and Chakra Cloaks, Susano'o, maybe even in general sometimes.
Nen is intangible and invisible. I don't remember DB aura being invisible but whatever. Whilst DB aura interactions are more tangible. Nen is intangible. Which doesn't make this a fair comparison. Bleach aura is intangible and invisible but it's made of soul particles in Bleach which again doesn't make it a fair comparison. Susanoo is specific to Uchiha, Chakra Cloaks are tangible and in general chakra is tangible and isn't used as a barrier.
The reason why i'm saying this applies to other verses that use Auras in general is because of the literal counter to these abilities discussed. There's nothing supporting the idea that Nen— Especially Ten's particular defense is special. What we're given is a simple explanation.
It isn't a counter at all. Chakra, Ki or whatever doesn't inherently counter any of the nen effects.
I emphasize shroud because there's a difference between Ten and a huge energy shield. Ten is extremely passive and not even forcefully molded into a defense— that's just consequential of drawing it out and letting it coat you. It's literally just your aura coating you a bit more than normal. Yeah, it does defend against physical harm slightly, but it's so slight that it does next to nothing naturally in real combat. You need to use Ryu and Gyo for that.
This doesn't matter. Ten provides the defense needed as said above. No matter how slight the aura. I don't need context I understand HxH.
What you seemed to be alluding to in my reading of it was that Nen is somehow special in this trait. That, rather than the shroud being as simple as a screen against what would normally be something that you'd be bare skinned to, like you don't have sunscreen against the Sun, it's something special to the system. There's no proof of that. Nothing about the introduction that Wing gave to Nen as a defense against the bloodlust read any more explicitly than the interpretation I gave you above. You'd have to theorize a bit more to gain that interpretation then a basic reading of it.
Nen is special in that regard because no other verse has the abilities provided by simply exerting your emotions in aura. No other Shounen Battle Aura has shown the defense and verse equalisation doesn't grant abilities.
How do you defend against someone's Nen Bloodlust? Shroud yourself in your Aura. It's that simple. If you can do that, you should be able to defend against the effects of these things. There's no extra proof needed. To claim that someone has to prove that the shrouds a person creates are protective is a supportive argument, but it doesn't and shouldn't be the standard, because not only is the basic ability in verse a simple one that any verse can and has done, but it's extremely nitpicky.
Yes shroud yourself in aura with the same defense capabilities as nen or similar. Proof is needed to prove the defensr capabilities it isn't something that can be presupposed. It isn't merely supportive, it's needed and it should be a standard otherwise we would be granting other verses, verse specific abilities even though they've never been displayed in verse which is fallicious. Show me examples of every verse "can and has done" the same effects of ten and malicious aura. It isn't nitpicky, it's logical