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Flash (Barry Allen) (Pre-Crisis) Revision:

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So I was wondering just when are we gonna get ourselves a Pre-Crisis Flash profile in this goddamn wiki just like of how we got ourselves Pre-Crisis Green Lantern profile? Here are some feats that I looked up online that could help us briefly analysis his feats:

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1) Runs Across the Moon in a fraction of an Instant. Explores the Solar system and Beyond

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2) Survives getting transmuted into mirror, melts himself in an incredibly short time and regenerates from being molten glass

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3) Punches Reverse-Flash back into 24th century

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4) Stalemates with Superman in race

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5) Gets the Upper-Hand on the JLA

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6) Creates three fully-sized tornadoes

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7) Rebuilds a Pyramid in seconds

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8) Speed Blitzes Corrigan Spectre

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9) Kills Reverse-Flash

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10) Creates a Robot while Crippled and then moves at Super Speed

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11) Superman can't catch him

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12) Fights some clouds and shows he is capable of running on them too

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13) Defeats Ultrama

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14) Moves while being turned into a Puppet

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15) Defeats a Clone of Hal Jorda

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16) Destroys Anti-Monitor's Anti-Matter Cano

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To briefly summarizes everything, Flash (Barry Allen) (Pre-Crisis) is overpowered as hell! 0_0

Here are some more details if you are interested:

Barry Allen is a CSI officer who is in his lab during the night, before a freak lightning bolt strikes dow, shattering all of the vats of chemicals and dousing him in them as well as the electricity from the lightning. After this event, Barry starts noticing changes in his body, as he finds himself able to move at superhuman speeds—capable of surpassing the sound barrier, disappearing from sight, and even time traveling by going faster than light itself! He still somehow always finds himself late in his persona of Barry Allen, and his girlfriend Iris West always reminds him of it. And she tells him (ironically) to be more like The Flash; the Fastest Man Alive!


Source Key

  • Showcase = SC

    • The Flash (1959) = TF
    • The Brave and the Bold (1955) = BatB
    • Justice League of America (1960) = JLoA
    • Green Lantern (1960) = GL
    • Crisis on Infinite Earths = COIE
Speed
Movement Speed


Combat/Reaction Speed


Perception Speed


Processing Speed


Strength

Durability
The accident that has granted Barry the power of super-speed has also given him an aura that protects him from friction and other injury! This aura also protects whatever/whoever he's in-contact with or carrying!

Blunt Force/Impact


Energy


Temperature


Endurance


Other


Abilities---- Vibrations - Destructive

Vibrations - Self Manipulation
So incredible is the Monarch of Motion that he can create vibration-frequencies swift enough to let objects pass through each other harmlessly, and counteract or repel deadly radiations!


Phasing


Molecular Control
The marvelous accident that gave Barry his powers also gave him the secondary ability to have complete control of the molecules and atoms that compose his body!


Heat/Friction

Time and Dimensional Travel

 
I've said this before, but why not just link the Reddit RT instead of just copy pasting it? Its much shorter and not mentioning the source makes it seem weird to me.

Anyways what are your suggested ratings for him.
 
I get the point of the scans. They're for power and abilities along with speed and AP scaling. Just in an unorganized fashion. Then he copy-pasted a Reddit RT for some reason.
 
Perhaps we should close this thread until John has shortened it down to the absolutely most relevant feats that can actually be used for something? Then he can restart it.
 
Qawsedf234 said:
I've said this before, but why not just link the Reddit RT instead of just copy pasting it? Its much shorter and not mentioning the source makes it seem weird to me.
Anyways what are your suggested ratings for him.
Attack Potency: Low Multiverse level (Defeated Pre-Crisis Ultraman, Pre-Crisis Gorilla Grodd and a clone of Pre-Crisis Green Lantern. Killed Pre-Crisis Reverse Flash with a single blow.)

Speed: Massively FTL+ (Outran and blitzed the entire Pre-Crisis JLA and Pre-Crisis Reverse Flash during their fight.) Immeasurable by running through time.

Lifting Strength: Class 1 (Physically lift up Solovar. Was able to still run normally towards Gorilla Grodd while having his entire weight increased by hundred fold.)

Striking Strength: Low Multiverse level (His punches were powerful enough to stagger Classic Doctor Fate, and Pre-Crisis Spectre forcing the latter to retreat. Send Pre-Crisis Reverse Flash flying through a different timeline with a punch.)

Durability: Low Multiverse level (Withstood blows from the weakened Anti-Monitor and Pre-Crisis JLA. Was able to survive trashing from Pre-Crisis Gorilla Grodd.)

Stamina: Incredibly high (Can race Pre-Crisis Superman across an astronomical distance without tiring out.)

Range: Tens of kilometers (Can generate shockwaves powerful enough to destroy several nukes and disperse clouds.)

This is as far as I can tell. I'll think of more.
 
For speed and AP I would change the Reverse Flash stuff to Superman scaling, since the Reverse Flash has no profile and there's no real non-circular scaling chain presented for him in this thread.
 
Can somebody check up the feats referenced in John's last post?
 
Qawsedf234 said:
For speed and AP I would change the Reverse Flash stuff to Superman scaling, since the Reverse Flash has no profile and there's no real non-circular scaling chain presented for him in this thread.
Yeah, I agree; this should be done to prevent circular reasoning.
 
I trust POTM's sense of judgement regarding Marvel and DC Comics scaling.
 
Huh. Looks like this page is more impressive for Superman than for Flash. It's clear from the word bubbles, Superman just wanted to knock out Flash, so I'm not sure how this is an impressive durability feat for Flash.
 
Based on what specifically?
 
Based on this:

Qawsedf234 said:
For speed and AP I would change the Reverse Flash stuff to Superman scaling, since the Reverse Flash has no profile and there's no real non-circular scaling chain presented for him in this thread.
 
Can somebody summarise the reliable feats to scale from please, including what tiers they would lead to?
 
Well, he obviously scales from Superman in terms of speed, but I do not see any raw power striking strength feats in those scans.
 
I agree, Flash only has more speed and not raw power than Superman in the Pre-Crisis era.
 
As in, Pre-Crisis Flash isn't physically as strong in terms of how hard he punches or how much he can take compared to Pre-Crisis Superman. In Post-Crisis, there's a different story as Flash can easily harm and KO Superman level enemies, but Pre-Crisis portrayed Superman differently.

Also, wasn't this thread 2 months old and wasn't the OP blocked?
 
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