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Shonen Heroes vs Villiains (3 vs 3)

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Hero team: Goku, Jotaro and Ichigo

Villian team: Frieza, DIO and Aizen

Everyone is in character.

Speed is equalized but they can go faster then each other via transformations.

Dragonball Notices: Frieza is current frieza and can go golden and Goku is current goku he can go up to super saiyan blue kaiokenx20

Jojo notice: Jotaro is end of part 3 and can use time stop, DIO is awakend DIO from part 3

Bleach Notice: Both are blood war versions and Ichigo can use true bankai with hollow horn and Aizen is in bondage out of chair.

Everyone starts in base forms and they all fight as teams but some more then others hence in character plays a part in this.

Fight takes place in Rohan Kishibe's house in Morioh while he's trying to make a manga out of this mess.
 
EmperorDoom25 said:
Aizen soulcrushes and mindhaxes
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While he can do that, I don't think he can before he gets blizted by like golden or kkx20, as OP said transformation speed increases stack, and that's a lot of stacks and multipliers. Like, a huge amount between base Goku and KKx20 Blue and 4th form to golden.

That is, unless Goku and Freeza cant interact with him, hes soul base yeah? Dont think Goku/freeza can touch souls.
 
Doesnt Freeza have resistance to soul hax?
 
Didn't he hold back destruction energy though? Does that not destroy the soul on contact? along with like, everything else?
 
EmperorDoom25 said:
That was EE, not soul manip
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I'm aware but does that EE not instantly destroy the soul on contact? I know it's technically not the same thing but both have the exact same effect. And hakai while EE also holds the properties of soul destruction. It's ee but it can soul **** basically. Of course if ik wrong on this correct me but idk dude, seems kinda fishy to say soul destruction would kill when something that destroys souls didnt work.
 
But it can? That's why I brought it up. Beerus can hakai spirits, it's even on his prfile I think.
 
I mean you should. By definition You're haxing souls. Of course it is a specific type of soul hax but it is soul hax even if it's specific. And while it doesnt protect from all forms of soul hax, or even most, it should protect from soul crush.
 
Is this Soul Crush or Reiatsu Crush. Because Reiatsu crushing is raw power gap in terms of AP, and Aizen is not AP crushing Goku when they both have Chi/Spiritual Energy based powers. More than enough to equalize. If it's some other type of hax, that's fine, but Reiatsu Crush is an AP gap thing. Plus, if you can survive attacks aiming to erase your soul, you can probably survive massive pressure on it too.
 
Well honestly none of this matters, cant be added to the profules unless it's 1v1 matches.

Although at thi point it's more of aizen vs freeza than anything so...
 
Why does a vs match have to be added for you to take it seriously? Stop caring so much about who can beat who lmao
 
Making a lot of assumptions there for an off hand statement I made while missing my point entirely, don't you think?
 
You said "none of it matters, can't be added". It's only reasonable for me to assume vs battles only matter to you if they can be added. Otherwise, why would you say it?
 
So others know that it cant be added? If I didnt care enough to debate I wouldnt even of commented in the first place and made a case for a fighter while fully knowing damn well it cant be added as the rules state.
 
If you wanted to debate or viewed this conversation as worth having, why start your statement with "none of it matters"? And what did you make a case for? Aizen vs Frieza? They're on the same team, for one, so they're working together, so unless they HAVE to fight each other in character, I don't see why that's even a response worth acknowledging, and secondly, Frieza blitzes Aizen upon going Golden, so it's wrong. What? Again, how was I supposed to interpret "none of this matters, it can't be added" as anything but you focusing on matches being able to be added as a strong indicator of whether or not a debate matters? When that's literally your own words.
 
You added absolutely nothing of relevance, besides saying "none of it matters". So you might as well not even say anything. What does Aizen vs Frieza have to do with the fight?
 
Why did I start it with that? Maybe if you read what I said you'd of learned that I said so others know, jesus christ dude.

What did I make a case for? The soul crush not working on the dbz combatants but clearly you were't paying attention.

Yeah, my mistake, the fact we were discussing Freezas feat in relation to Aizen's soul crush made me forget that fact, but it'd apply to Goku regardless. My points stand in spite of that.

I outright already brought up blitzin from golden and ssbkkx20, did you not read anything at all? Why are you repeating exactly what I said?

You weren't supposed to intepret it at all, maybe dont be a smartass and act like you know exactly what someone's talking about or their intentions from a random comment when I wasnt even talking to you, I was directing that statement towards someone else. Maybe start with that? But I forgot apparently youre omniscient or some shit.

idk dude, added a hell of a lot more to this thread then you but thats beside the point. How about you stop trying to read people over the internet and act like a smartass about it? Especially when the thing you're trying to analyze isnt even relevant to the topic at hand, maybe try to add something of relevance instead? Now how about actually adding something of interest to the topic instead of misintepreting others and repeating what's already been said?
 
Milly Rocking Bandit said:
Reminder Beerus's EE killed a ghost, and ghosts are commonly referred to as the soul. Don't care for this match, just wanted to correct that above.
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Yeah I brought that up and brought up how the profile lists that as much. If it wasnt the case id assume soul crush would work fine on dbz top tiers.
 
Hakai EE works on souls, shown when beerus uses it on a soul. So goku and freiza can both tank mult+ soul erasure. Aizen won't work, and goku can resist mind hax from universal beings like babidi. Bad move. Freiza and Goku would be the only two that matter because of AP.
 
FFx20 goku<Golden Frieza, as frieza was taking hits from GOD Toppo and still fighting. Base toppo can take KK blue goku.
 
Meaning this essentially is Goku vs Freeza. Which like, we know how that's gonna turn out.
 
True, yeah I suppose Golden Freeza is stronger than Goku in blue (although he has KKx20 in this scenario so it's still a toss up).
 
He didnt fight either with kkx20 though? Kaioken wasnt even in the broly movie.
 
it is notAmexim said:
Is this Soul Crush or Reiatsu Crush. Because Reiatsu crushing is raw power gap in terms of AP, and Aizen is not AP crushing Goku when they both have Chi/Spiritual Energy based powers. More than enough to equalize. If it's some other type of hax, that's fine, but Reiatsu Crush is an AP gap thing. Plus, if you can survive attacks aiming to erase your soul, you can probably survive massive pressure on it too.
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it is not .

reiatsu crush is soul manip , if you don't resist it and need your soul to live , you're dead .

same as mind hax , you don't resist , you're done .
 
How is Reiatsu Crush soul manipulation? Where was it stated to be soul manipulation and, while you're at it, demonstrate to me that the idea that it is AP based is baseless in the story. Because as far as I am aware, it happens in response to people being met with an overwhelming amount of Spiritual Pressure/Reiatsu, which overloads their senses upon being felt by people who can sense spiritual energies. This sounds like the Bleach fandom got out of hand with their verse and tried to make these basic concepts apply in completely different ways than were actually shown. Citation needed on that, essentially. Reiatsu crushing, unless you provide proof, is because of people sensing your high ass Spirit Energy AP and dying from the shock of perceiving it. As such, since Verse Equalization maintains that Chi and Reiatsu are similar enough to be seen as the same thing, Soul Crush wouldn't happen. And, at that guy? Chariot? You didn't say anything that specifies you were referring to Reiatsu Crush when I was responding to you. Everything you said that I was referring to— that being everything after I spoke here first, not you bringing up Reiatsu crushing prior to that before i wrote my responses implied that you were referring to the match as a whole. As you said "it wouldn't be added anyway," after "it doesn't matter". You failed at conveying your point on that front, if you did in fact have one. I can say I didn't realize you were typing here earnestly before tho, so my bad on that front. You did seem to care about the match— but that still doesn't explain why you bothered to say "it wouldn't be added". No one implied they thought the match could be added.
 
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