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Accelerator vs Esdeath

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Okay so Esdeath is Low 7B to Accelerators baseline 7B so he has AP by a minimal margin, he's also significantly smarter has better combat expirience, and basically everything Esdeath can do that isn't time Stop gets reflected.

Issue is, Esdeath has a good chance of attempting to time Stop before Accel gets serious. As this version jobs.
 
Isn't that literally a last resort though? By the time she likely tries to pull that card out he'd have touched her and imploded her organs and nerves from inside out. Unless she for some reason does it immediately, it's highly in Accel's favor since OT3 Accel tends to rush people as an intimidation tactic if they do not back down like touma did, so Esdeath will likely trigger the 'death train'.
 
Define Last resort because she uses it whenever she's about to get hit.
 
It seems to imply it's an Ultimate Trump card and from what I know, would she really waste that immediately? It has major negative draw backs as well so if she doesn't hit vitals immediately, Accelerator can likely patch up any holes she tries to put in him in that time-stop depending on the time frame of it and she'd be drained. Not to mention even a single vector rock can likely take out her entire organs as well, so he doesn't even specifically need to touch her.
 
Without vectors, Accel has 9-C dura. Pretty sure any attack Esdeath does (with TimeStop) would basically obliterate Accel
 
Accelerate420 said:
It seems to imply it's an Ultimate Trump card and from what I know, would she really waste that immediately? It has major negative draw backs as well so if she doesn't hit vitals immediately, Accelerator can likely patch up any holes she tries to put in him in that time-stop depending on the time frame of it and she'd be drained. Not to mention even a single vector rock can likely take out her entire organs as well, so he doesn't even specifically need to touch her.
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Ignoring that a Low 7B attack is going to kill 9C Durability and that Esdeath dmfreezes her opponents as well

Esdeath isn't heavily drained when she uses it, she kinda fought off Night Raid after time stopping

And no, Esdeath isn't going to sit there and take a hit from Accelerator, she's a ******, not an idiot.
 
If she's able to assess that a wandering vector rock is going to turn her into swish cheese or a single tap of a finger will turn her inside out, and knows Accel's threat level then yeah, she probably would time stop and win. Also pre-accel has like no applicable battle experience. Half of the 10k clone fights were just them shooting him and him standing still, it's why he got CQC'd by Touma so hard.
 
Accelerator literally kicking a vector rock towards her isn't going to kill her, Accelerator is baseline 7B.

The finger will kill her, but she never goes CQC unless forced to she uses range.
 
Esdeath doesn't use Mahapadma immediately though. She uses it sparingly, from what I remember.
 
A single vector rock is stated to be able to tear straight through Curtana Empowered Elizard guts which is Archangel tier at fully power and his vectors don't magically get stronger from Pre to Post. I'm still not sure why the key's aren't scaled to eachother since his powers don't work that way, but whatever.
 
TIHYDDWBE said:
Esdeath doesn't use Mahapadma immediately though. She uses it sparingly, from what I remember.
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Mostly correct, she doesn't use it unless absolutely necessary, being hit by a dude who has done nothing but reflect literally every attack at her calls for it.

@Accelerate Yeah I feel you, but that's how the site works.
 
Not gunna lie, Accelerator having a definable AP is odd. His attacks borrow energy from other sources always.

And the other half of the time he ignores durability.

@Accelerate420 Wow that still didn't get done. If I recall it was accepted but nobody could do anything because it's locked and/or were too busy to apply it.
 
Accelerator's abilities don't really have a 'limit' so much so as the story demands he doesn't kill someone. He has shown some caps but half of the time he's stress testing/not wanting to literally destroy the entire city. Like with Migrates and the Windowless Building, plus he's able to magnify vectors now as well so there's nothing stopping him from magnifying the kinetic energy he put into a rock by x100000 except for plot. But outlier/hyperbole I guess, it's also stated he uses just as much as he needs to to end a fight which means we haven't seen a cap limit yet truly. Yeah, it doesn't help that his vectors are invisible to begin with. Theoretically he should be able to punch hard enough to emplode the universe since he can magnify what is already there, but clearly we'll never see that happen. Anyways, off topic. Esdeath's win con is an instant win, but what reasons do we have to believe she'll do it immediately just because some attacks get reflected? As he continues to close the distance he'd likely be able to get a single scrape and it's game over. It depends on her conditions for doing it.
 
Also, even tho Accel is a jobber, he still cripples his opponents. And theres the fact that he can use info analysis by touching her.
 
I'm not implying that Esdeath will immediately do it, Im implying she does it the moment Accelerator really pressures.

When Esdeath is inevitably pushed into a corner with her own attacks, which she absolutely will since Accelerator's reflection is well beyond her ability, that's when she's going to feel pressured.

For some examples, when Esdeath is about to get shot by Mine and could not dodge, she stopped

When Esdeath is about to be hit by Susanoo, she stops.

Akame, She stops

Etc.

It's a situation of "Will Accelerator get serious before Esdeath stops time"

Also worth taking to consideration, Accelerator loves to enjoy a spectacle, Esdeath causing a bunch of ice sculptures to bring him down and him reflecting it? He's going to sit back and enjoy it.
 
Esdeath knew about Susanoo and Mine's power. The same applies for when she was fighting Akame. She doesn't know Accel and he is just a weird looking kid without any equipment. She wouldn't really take him serious unless he uses some strong attack.
 
If she doesn't back down after the first few reflections he's likely to just say 'screw it' and rush her immediately.
 
Najenda is kinda fodder tho.

Esdeath trashed her even when she wasn't injured.
 
I agree with Schnee. It's true that Mahapadma tires her out, but it's not as much as people assume, as she fought Akame right after using it. She tends to use it if she's cornered (like when she used it to destroy Susanoo in the fight when Night Raid had to kill an important person) or if she cannot do anything else. It's not like she cannot fight anymore if she uses it.

She'll probably start with Ice range spam, Accel deflects everything, attacks her, Esdeath protects herself with Ice, Ice shatters or gets badly damaged due to AP gap, Esdeath realizes she's cornered, uses timestop and kills Accel

Voting Esdeath
 
If she doesn't get damaged by her own ice being reflected at her guts, ya know
 
>Ice Shatters and gets badly damaged due to AP gap


If he's literally damaging her himself the gap is irrelevant at that point, she's turned inside out.
 
If she gets damaged, she'll stop time to prevent the injury from getting too grave. That's exactly what she did when Akame slashed her arm.
 
Because he launches the debris while destroying the shield directly in front of her.
 
Also, Esdeath can shatter her ice by just thinking, just like she can control it.

She did it with her Ice cavalry out of the top of my head, and I remember her doing it other times. Reflecting Esdeath's Ice is out of question.
 
<Launching Debris

You are literally asking for Esdeath to time Stop unless you're honestly saying she will just sit there and die.
 
Like she is totally expecting a weird kid to just explode her shield out of nowhere without anything that resembles a Teigu.
 
I don't think her stopping time the moment Accel touches her will do anything. It may prevent her from immediately exploding but the moment she comes out of Time-stop the formula is already inputted into her body and she'd explode.
 
Thinks the person that has nothing that resembles a Teigu.

Given that they can be belts, and that half of them were lost to history, Esdeath's not going to let her guard down. Also, if Chelsea can be an assassin, she's not going to underestimate Accel.
 
Accelerate420 said:
I don't think her stopping time the moment Accel touches her will do anything. It may prevent her from immediately exploding but the moment she comes out of Time-stop the formula is already inputted into her body and she'd explode.
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Accel has no way of getting closer to Esdeath without using his vector powers, which would alert Esdeath and use Timestop to manage to hit him.
 
TriforcePower1 said:
Accelerate420 said:
I don't think her stopping time the moment Accel touches her will do anything. It may prevent her from immediately exploding but the moment she comes out of Time-stop the formula is already inputted into her body and she'd explode.
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Accel has no way of getting closer to Esdeath without using his vector powers, which would alert Esdeath and use Timestop to manage to hit him.
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His vectors are invisible to begin with. How would it alert her? She'd think he's just kicking really strong. She'd have no idea a touch from him, even a scrape, would flatline her entire nervous and organs system.
 
Alternatively, he can snipe her or blitz her via speed amping or lettimg her try a meelee attack.
 
I keep forgetting vectors are speed amps since he's still just a regular human. So in that respect I don't think she's reacting to an immediate bowl-dozing vector change if the speed is equal.
 
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