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So. I was exploring the Lore of Hollow knight hoping to find something... and I found something I think. Those who don't want spoilers, go away now, major stuff coming in.
Ok. So we know for two of the endings. We fight The Radiance. One in the hollow knight fight. And then we can also fight Absolute Radiance who is just stronger Radiance. Now let's discuss some Lore about The Radiance
The Radiance is a creature you only see in the dream realm. Reading into the lore
"The Radiance is a higher being who created the moth tribe and ruled over parts of Hallownest before The Pale King arrived."
Being a higher being is being one of the god like bugs
"Higher beings are god-like creatures in the world of Hallownest that exist above all others"
Ok. So what. Big deal right? Well let's get more into Radiances lore.
"She is described as being a light brighter than Essence, which is the substance that dreams are made of. She seems to hold the most power over the dream realm"
Ok. So holding power over most of the Dream realm. But how big is a Dream realm. Bare minimum we have seen them hold an entire castle shown by the Sawblade palace that everyone loves. here if ya want to see it. As well all the other Dream boss fights which holds those buildings. And we know the Radiance has power of all dreams because of this statement
"Although she is trapped here, she can still affect the dreams of bugs due to the Hollow Knight being impure. This dream is connected to the Dreamer dreams as with each Dreamer killed the sky glows brighter and brighter until the "Sun" or the Radiance appears in the background. A death in this dream is also considered physical."
So that would mean all the power from Bugs dreams. Which would give good power since the Dream realms have shown to hold quite a bit. But then there's this about the Dream realm.
"It contains the eternal dreams and memories of bugs"
Described as eternal. Not only that. This is Per bug. And it includes dead ones too. As dead bugs have dreams both brought up in game lore and in game. And you can enter a few of them. As well. There is as another realm in the form of the Nightmares Realm. One separate from the Dream realm
"This dream is the location where Nightmare King Grimm is fought. It takes place in the Nightmare Realm, separate from the rest of the dream realm."
And The Knight is able to beat Nightmare Grimm and stronger then the Nightmare heart. Which it is said to be the strongest power within the realm and holds it together.
"It is said to be the strongest power within the Nightmare Realm, the one that holds the realm together"
The Nightmare realm being the exact polar opposite to the Dream realm and likely could be scaled on size.
The Knight is fully able to Defeat by end game Radiance, absolute radiance, and Nightmare grim. Who have power over the Dream and nightmare realms which bare minimum have shown to hold palaces, Large buildings, and more. And have also been described to be eternal. As well. Broke the chains that could hold The Hollow knight and radiance keeping them trapped.
I can already hear the ones calling it an outlier. But realistically. Past the feat at The Literal very start of the game. There is like no feats in hollow Knight that could refer to anything as much an outlier. And by end game. The Knight can destroy about any creature in his path no diff. The only ones who really do notable damage at that point is Hollow knight, radiance, absolute radiance, nightmare Grimm, Hollow knight, and possibly Hornet.
And we aren't even done yet. Remember that absolute radiance fights you in a place that literally has realms inside of realms. Filled with several parts of the kingdom, a seemingly unending realm to enter these other ones. Which this or the other radiance ending is the canon one (to my understanding).
Seems like there's a lot here supporting this Potential massive Buff. Breaking the chains that held the Hollow knight and radiance trapped. Beatings radiance and absolute radiance. Beating nightmare Grimm. All who have feats power powers that hold realms together that have been described as eternal. And the radiance able to control all Bugs dreams even where they were from. Which is where The Knight fights them. This buff would go for The Knight, Hollow Knight, The Radiance, and Maybe Hornet.
There also is the fact Seer quotes this in game
"Seer: "A dream is endless, but a Kingdom is not.""
Thus, dreams both being called Eternal and Endless.
As well, The Godseekers are explicitly stated to have created Godhome and noted to have done it via their mask/thoughts
'At some point, they merged within the mind of a single Godseeker. This individual can focus their thoughts into a complex dream world: Godhome. This feat is possible through their mask, which can be passed along other Godseekers.[2] They also built a temporary tuning device in order to find the resonance of other powerful beings in distant lands.'
Now the Radiance should be much stronger then the Godseeker but it is also specifically stated that through 'communion' of the Godseekers the radiance is able to attain it's ultimate form 'Absolute Radiance' and the Knight kills the Absolute Radiance (Combination of the powers of the Godseekers+The Radiance) by unifying and letting the void take over he is able to fully kill the radiance (something he could only do with the help of the shade of Hollow Knight in the normal ending)
My recommendation is a separate key for Start game/End Game/Godsee
Start game is Small building for the Rock calc.
End game is Multiversal via beating The Radiance who has control over all Bugs dreams which are endless and eternal. And there are thousands of bugs. Even dead bugs confirm have dreams.
Godseek is Multiversal via being much stronger than endgame. And also became a giant shadow beast with dimensional crossing.
And Grim should get at least Universal+ due to the fact he is powered by the heart that holds the knightmare realm together. And possibly higher since the nightmare realm is the equivalent of the Dream realm which I discussed above.
Ok. So we know for two of the endings. We fight The Radiance. One in the hollow knight fight. And then we can also fight Absolute Radiance who is just stronger Radiance. Now let's discuss some Lore about The Radiance
The Radiance is a creature you only see in the dream realm. Reading into the lore
"The Radiance is a higher being who created the moth tribe and ruled over parts of Hallownest before The Pale King arrived."
Being a higher being is being one of the god like bugs
"Higher beings are god-like creatures in the world of Hallownest that exist above all others"
Ok. So what. Big deal right? Well let's get more into Radiances lore.
"She is described as being a light brighter than Essence, which is the substance that dreams are made of. She seems to hold the most power over the dream realm"
Ok. So holding power over most of the Dream realm. But how big is a Dream realm. Bare minimum we have seen them hold an entire castle shown by the Sawblade palace that everyone loves. here if ya want to see it. As well all the other Dream boss fights which holds those buildings. And we know the Radiance has power of all dreams because of this statement
"Although she is trapped here, she can still affect the dreams of bugs due to the Hollow Knight being impure. This dream is connected to the Dreamer dreams as with each Dreamer killed the sky glows brighter and brighter until the "Sun" or the Radiance appears in the background. A death in this dream is also considered physical."
So that would mean all the power from Bugs dreams. Which would give good power since the Dream realms have shown to hold quite a bit. But then there's this about the Dream realm.
"It contains the eternal dreams and memories of bugs"
Described as eternal. Not only that. This is Per bug. And it includes dead ones too. As dead bugs have dreams both brought up in game lore and in game. And you can enter a few of them. As well. There is as another realm in the form of the Nightmares Realm. One separate from the Dream realm
"This dream is the location where Nightmare King Grimm is fought. It takes place in the Nightmare Realm, separate from the rest of the dream realm."
And The Knight is able to beat Nightmare Grimm and stronger then the Nightmare heart. Which it is said to be the strongest power within the realm and holds it together.
"It is said to be the strongest power within the Nightmare Realm, the one that holds the realm together"
The Nightmare realm being the exact polar opposite to the Dream realm and likely could be scaled on size.
The Knight is fully able to Defeat by end game Radiance, absolute radiance, and Nightmare grim. Who have power over the Dream and nightmare realms which bare minimum have shown to hold palaces, Large buildings, and more. And have also been described to be eternal. As well. Broke the chains that could hold The Hollow knight and radiance keeping them trapped.
I can already hear the ones calling it an outlier. But realistically. Past the feat at The Literal very start of the game. There is like no feats in hollow Knight that could refer to anything as much an outlier. And by end game. The Knight can destroy about any creature in his path no diff. The only ones who really do notable damage at that point is Hollow knight, radiance, absolute radiance, nightmare Grimm, Hollow knight, and possibly Hornet.
And we aren't even done yet. Remember that absolute radiance fights you in a place that literally has realms inside of realms. Filled with several parts of the kingdom, a seemingly unending realm to enter these other ones. Which this or the other radiance ending is the canon one (to my understanding).
Seems like there's a lot here supporting this Potential massive Buff. Breaking the chains that held the Hollow knight and radiance trapped. Beatings radiance and absolute radiance. Beating nightmare Grimm. All who have feats power powers that hold realms together that have been described as eternal. And the radiance able to control all Bugs dreams even where they were from. Which is where The Knight fights them. This buff would go for The Knight, Hollow Knight, The Radiance, and Maybe Hornet.
There also is the fact Seer quotes this in game
"Seer: "A dream is endless, but a Kingdom is not.""
Thus, dreams both being called Eternal and Endless.
As well, The Godseekers are explicitly stated to have created Godhome and noted to have done it via their mask/thoughts
'At some point, they merged within the mind of a single Godseeker. This individual can focus their thoughts into a complex dream world: Godhome. This feat is possible through their mask, which can be passed along other Godseekers.[2] They also built a temporary tuning device in order to find the resonance of other powerful beings in distant lands.'
Now the Radiance should be much stronger then the Godseeker but it is also specifically stated that through 'communion' of the Godseekers the radiance is able to attain it's ultimate form 'Absolute Radiance' and the Knight kills the Absolute Radiance (Combination of the powers of the Godseekers+The Radiance) by unifying and letting the void take over he is able to fully kill the radiance (something he could only do with the help of the shade of Hollow Knight in the normal ending)
My recommendation is a separate key for Start game/End Game/Godsee
Start game is Small building for the Rock calc.
End game is Multiversal via beating The Radiance who has control over all Bugs dreams which are endless and eternal. And there are thousands of bugs. Even dead bugs confirm have dreams.
Godseek is Multiversal via being much stronger than endgame. And also became a giant shadow beast with dimensional crossing.
And Grim should get at least Universal+ due to the fact he is powered by the heart that holds the knightmare realm together. And possibly higher since the nightmare realm is the equivalent of the Dream realm which I discussed above.
