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Sora vs Dante

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What's stopping Dante from oneshotting with like anything here since he's able to oneshot other 3-As like Argosax in DMC 2?
 
Second chance,once more,ressurection.

Sora just comes back and slaps Dante with a warp spell.
 
Theglassman12 said:
Is there any proof that he starts with the Warp Spell?
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He doesn´t use it in character really.

He uses the Gravity spells more, however.
 
DMC5 Dante in character is pretty serious, if an enemy doesn't die, is tough to kill, or resurrects he goes for Sealing immediately.Dante all the way back in DMC2 has stomped various 3A's who were above baseline when he was in base and DMC5 Dante is immensely superior to his DMC2 counterpart.
 
Hmmmm the details on AP for this Dante is a bit vague. I am certainly confused by what exactly entails this is the case though.
 
To make it super short and simple, base form DMC2 Dante is superior to at least 3x or 4x baseline 3A and DMC5 Dante is massively superior to DMC2 Dante.
 
What Dante can do against spells like Zero Graviza or Magnega (basically keep him trapped in a place via an attraction to it while also dealing damage, Sora can also combo him while it lasts), Reflega (barrier that also sends homing explosions if attacked) and Aeroga/Aeroza (wind cyclone)?
 
@Die Still a bit vague though given the unusual cosmology of Devil May Cry and how confusing it can be. Also considering Devil May Cry is a Japanese video game series after all, has there been confirmations about the 3A part? I am afraid this is puzzling to me if I gonna be honest here.
 
@HammerStrikes219

This thread covers alot of the 3A feats and explains them in a pretty straight forward manner, other than that you would have to look at the massive CRT's that came before.

@Bobsican

Dante's dealt with things similiar to Reflega and Aeroga, I don't remember him facing something similiar to Magnega but he can deal with all of that with RG and Summoned Swords.

Don't know what Zero Graviza does.
 
Dienomite22 said:
@HammerStrikes219
This thread covers alot of the 3A feats and explains them in a pretty straight forward manner, other than that you would have to look at the massive CRT's that came before.

@Bobsican

Dante's dealt with things similiar to Reflega and Aeroga, I don't remember him facing something similiar to Magnega but he can deal with all of that with RG and Summoned Swords.

Don't know what Zero Graviza does.
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Hmm... tbh it is rather unusal though.

Edit: I not sure how that translates to AP given how all it did is making it quite confusing.
 
@HammerStrikes219

I mean it's pretty simple, if I can forcefully merge 2 universes together or split 1 universe into 2 with my energy/magic alone then I should be 3A.
 
Dienomite22 said:
@HammerStrikes219

I mean it's pretty simple, if I can forcefully merge 2 universes togther or split 1 universe into 2 with my energy/magic alone then I should be 3A.
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On the other hand though. If you splitting a universe into two halves, then wouldn't that mean they are not exactly the size of a expanding universe per se?

There are a few issues I see here is how we interpret for the two halves of a original universe being the size of a expanding universe or not and how it was done.


Also what was the methods for this anyway?
 
@HammerStrikes219

The thread I posted and the blog has links and stuff for this kinda thing but one thing I can tell you now is the DMC universe is bigger than ours.The Demon World is an indeterminate ammount larger than the Human World.

The methods for all of these feats are through sheer demonic energy.
 
Zero Graviza and Magnega basically do the exat same thing, but the way it works is different (one uses magnetism, the other... gravity), so yeah, practically the same use.

There´s also Thundaga/Thundaza (It has a wide range) and Waterga/Waterza (a water explosion, also with quite a wide area of effect).

There´s also the Shotlock (basically a variety of homing attacks that can be quickly fired after pointing on the target(s) for a moment), some varieties of Shotlock like then ones from the Favorite Deputy allow him to teleport-spam, while others like the Ever After keyblade allow him to recover health in the process (useful to take Second Chance/Once More to the limits). Ultima Weapon is not canon, but as this is composite Sora... let´s just say it´s kinda broken, as the Ultimate Form allows him to practically danmaku his way with a lot of keyblades.

There´s also Stopga but he resists time stop anyways.
 
Dienomite22 said:
@HammerStrikes219

The thread I posted and the blog has links and stuff for this kinda thing but one thing I can tell you now is the DMC universe is bigger than ours.The Demon World is an indeterminate ammount larger than the Human World.

The methods for all of these feats are through sheer demonic energy.
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Still not helping though as the methods on how to achieve 3A seems to be quite inconsistent and a glaring issue regarding the usage of world and universe given how that seems to serve some skepticism for some reason, but I will reserve that for now.

Also the Demon World is bigger than the human world? Hmmmmm...

I am concerned if there is glaring contradictions in this analysis given my admittedly limited knowledge for the DMC series in general.
 
Bobsican said:
Zero Graviza and Magnega basically do the exat same thing, but the way it works is different (one uses magnetism, the other... gravity), so yeah, practically the same use.

Ultima Weapon is not canon, but as this is composite Sora...
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Why are you saying the Ultima Weapon's non canon with little proof as to if it is or not? Also Zero Gravity leaves foes trapped in a Gravity Sphere in mid air while Magnega draws them into a Magnetic Sphere.
 
You see, to unlock it you have to do side quest(s) AFTER the plot of the game itself, which considering how the plot goes, yeah, totally not canon.

As for the Zero Gravity part, Zero Graviza really works the same way like Magnega (but with Gravity Spheres, of course), unlike Zero Graviga and below, which doesn´t change much really.
 
@HammerStrikes219

Human World and Demon World are universes and all of the feats shown took into account the possible misuse of "world" and "universe" and found that in the original Japanese refers to universe and they also took into account the logica reasons as to why it simply isn't "world" as in a planet.I recommend reading the blog in depth to put your justified skepticism to rest.
 
Bobsican said:
You see, to unlock it you have to do side quest(s) AFTER the plot of the game itself, which considering how the plot goes, yeah, totally not canon.
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No you don't. As soon as you get to the Keyblade Graveyard's 1st sequence you can make the Ultima Weapon.
 
Dienomite22 said:
@HammerStrikes219

Human World and Demon World are universes and all of the feats shown took into account the possible misuse of "world" and "universe" and found that in the original Japanese refers to universe and they also took into account the logica reasons as to why it simply isn't "world" as in a planet.I recommend reading the blog in depth to put your justified skepticism to rest.
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Still was it acknowledged that the original Japanese use the kanji for Universe or something similar to mean Universe?

This has been puzzling to say the least.
 
DMC 5 Dante at the end=Vergil>>>>>>Urizen Pos-Fruit>>>>>>>>>>Urizen Pre-Fruit>>>>>>>>>DMC 5 Dante at start=>DMC 4 Dante>>>DMC 2 Dante>>>>Void Mundus>>>Mundus=Argosax, Despair Embodied>>>Argosax the Chaos=feat way above baseline 3-A

So yeah Dante would oneshot, even if Sora has ways around that.
 
@HammerStrikes219

Yes.Also, here is a feat without the need to use translation.Links are on Argosax's page in the AP section.

Argosax is shown warping the entire Earth, Sun and moon before he is fully unsealed meaning that the effects are beyond Earth and the guidebooks state his power was causing the Demon World to consume our dimension aka the Human World, Arius states that Argosax is reverting everything back to it's original state which in the DMC3 manga means when the Human and Demon World were originally one.
 
Dienomite22 said:
@HammerStrikes219

Yes.Also, here is a feat without the need to use translation.Links are on Argosax's page in the AP section.

Argosax is shown warping the entire Earth, Sun and moon before he is fully unsealed meaning that the effects are beyond Earth and the guidebooks state his power was causing the Demon World to consume our dimension aka the Human World
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Huh so the words "Universe", "Dimension", and "World" has been used in the DMC series it seems.

Unfortunately I not sure how this exactly translate to AP and if it is combat applicable as well.

It is like attempting to solving a riddle that is full of complex contexts.

I will reserve this topic to avoid derailing this thread further more for the time being.
 
@HammerStrikes219

Alright, please look into the blog and CRT when you have time, I'm sure you will find your answer.
 
Actually, Sora may have a win condicion in Lethal Frame, which can time stop those with time stop resistence, but the chances of him going for that are not very big.
 
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