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Concerning the Downplay of Sonic the Hedgehog

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Now people may be against me people may be Mad, people might attack me to, lets just get this over with. Vs Battle Wiki Sonic is not just FTL nor just planet or Low Multiversal (I can already see the shit storm) Now here me out, I don't mean to offend none of you but Base sonic is heavily downplayed, first off he's not planet level, he's Universal to possibly 5D if we wank

Why you may ask? Because he beat infinite who harnessed the power of the phantom ruby. Now it's funny how you guys ignore many feats of infinite, creating Null space and a mini sun just as strong as the real thing and beating the hell out of Base sonic

But the feats you don't know are the feats I will use, like this the Phantom ruby is so powerful it can break the boundaries of dimensions or universes. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/534881336972935193/567865453511442443/unknown.png The amount of dimensions in sonic are 3-4 but breaking a boundarie of something means your destroying the limit, so logically if I break the maximum limit of 4D to the point I break it's dimensional barriers, I'm Low Multiversal to 5D or High Multiversal+ if we wank.

This is the stuff the Phantom Ruby can do infinite clearly harnessed it's power. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/575310515795132458/575963188785315860/unknown.png If he harnessed power that can break the limit of the fourth dimension easily, that would obviously make him low Multiversal at least.

But wait your probably asking isn't this an outlier if this is true? No it's not you wanna know why? Because it's been shown sonic has been getting stronger throughout the years, which explains why he's so strong You want evidence don't you here it is. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachme...hown_to_be_gotten_stronger_multiple_times.png There's also him defeating perfect chaos in his base form in sonic generations, when he previously needed Supersonic to even stand a chance, it also took him less time to defeat perfect chaos in his base form, there's more stuff backing this up to, like the other universal feats base sonic has. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachme...299477/Perfect_Chaos_Absorbs_All_Emeralds.png Beating perfect chaos in base who has infinite power infinite 3D universal, infinite being stated stronger then Solaris backs up him being Multiversal to possibly 5D. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachme...8c36f83297ef06cc25b95d7f231fdaca843aa7_hq.jpg

But wait what about sonic's speed it's immesurable, he moved in a place without time easily and fixed space and accelerated through time just by running, https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachme.../572679539650723850/Sonics_Infinite_Speed.png. I can already hear people saying OUTLIER OUTLIER!!! Like I already explained sonic has been getting stronger throughtout the years, becoming better at running and exploring his top speed.

Now with that said let's cover Supersonic (BREATHES IN HEAVILY) You downplayed the **** out of him (sorry for the language

His power makes Base sonic a dimension higher because before sonic was universal in base he was Large Star level at least, while in his Superform he's low Multiversal, which makes the multiplier of Supersonic a dimensional jump at least.

If base sonic now is Universal or low Multiversal or 5D Supersonic is 4D to 6D. (btw his speed is still Immesurable) Now everything else you got right his Hax his canon and abilities mostly.

Please look at this with an Open mind and don't be bias. With all that said, Thank You for reading goodbye.
 
I find it funny how everybody downplays base form sonic and acts like his super form is the only reason he could fight on pair with super strong characters

I am sure I have seen people say base sonic would lose to the naruto verse at one point
 
I could wank to Outerversal but it's wank tho, also the scans I showed you not many people know of them that's why you rarely hear of 5D Base sonic. I think they should make Base sonic Universal or Multiversal and Supersonic 5D probably won't happen tho
 
It's good that people are trying to get better scaling for characters like sonic who used to get downplayed. I know some good sonic scalers and they mostly agree with this too.

But saying Base Sonic would beat MUI Goku is wank and a bit of downplay on Goku, this site also downplays Dragon Ball Super. Base Goku by now is low Multiversal low balling and is more likely Multiversal, he's also 4D. But consistently he's got High Inaccessible speed which this site also lacks due to them not updating and for a high ball Immeasurable speeds. But Goku even if he's billions or more times his base sadly he can't get out of Multiversal cuz it's an infinite gap to reach Infinite 4D or Multiversal+ but there are wank arguments to get him to 5D or higher.
 
Ooh boy

Breaking the boundary of dimensions is just portal creation. It's not Low 2-C and certainly not 5-D.

This "immeasurable" feat is not even considered infinite here, let alone immeasurable.

Also, even if Sonic was Tier 2, there is absolutely no reason to assume that Super Sonic makes him 5-D. Absolutely none.
 
I probably don't need to get involved here, since it isn't an obscure franchise...but why not.

You will need much more than that scan to prove higher dimensionality of any kind. The context must point to "dimension" being the axis of movement kind of dimension rather than synonym of universe kind of dimension. Only then could "break the limits of this dimension" remotely imply tier 2 stats

Moving in a timeless void is only infinite if legit, not immeasurable. Here's a page specifically made for such feats Timeless Voids Standards
 
Jesus Christ.

Infinite is not stronger than Solaris. That was just promotional material to hype him up when he hasn't remotely demonstrated anything on that level in-game.

The Phantom Ruby breaking the boundaries of dimensions is just space-time manipulation which is hax, not AP.

High 3-A Perfect Chaos I shouldn't even entertain. Chaos Emeralds are variable, Perfect Chaos has no feats on that level. Next.

There are no 5D feats or higher in the franchise to speak of so Super Sonic would not be that high even if Base Sonic was 4D (which he's not).

As for the Generations thing, I'd get it if you proposed something like a separate speed rating for it like with Flash (Wally West) (Post-Crisis) or Superman (Pre-Crisis), but having Base Sonic's normal speed be listed like that is a no.

So pretty much a no to all of this.
 
ShadowWarrior1999 said:
Jesus Christ.
Infinite is not stronger than Solaris. That was just promotional material to hype him up when he hasn't remotely demonstrated anything on that level in-game.
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If I had to guess, he's only stronger than anyone who base Sonic fought.
 
Well actually moving in a timeless void is Inaccessible speeds, the wiki needs to update its speed scale but then again this wiki barely knows how to use the different types of speeds.

They barely have any characters above MFTL+ like most comic characters aren't Immeasurable like Silver Surfer, Flash, And many others need updating but this wiki can barely use their own speed scale like I said.
 
Carnifex13 said:
Well actually moving in a timeless void is Inaccessible speeds, the wiki needs to update its speed scale but then again this wiki barely knows how to use the different types of speeds.

They barely have any characters above MFTL+ like most comic characters aren't Immeasurable like Silver Surfer, Flash, And many others need updating but this wiki can barely use their own speed scale like I said.
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https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/2956047?useskin=oasis

^Read this thread is being suggest before but got rejected.
 
Carnifex, read the text, look at where I said breaking the boundaries of dimensions, infinite 4D, Jesus christ, boundaries of dimensions are even portals how is that portal creation dear lord space time manipulation is manipulating space time not breaking it into multiple pieces like shattered glass, I just proved Sonic has 5D feats tho, you completely ignored them, chaos emeralds ren't variable to full power of the chaos emeralds are infinite, they are not weak. (Get it?)

I'm willing to accept the speed being wrong, but it's not infinite speed it's Inaccesible, as my friend Carnifex said.

Perfect chaos doesn't need Universal feats, he absorbed infinite power basically, infinite has better feats then Solaris, like breaking the limits of dimensions.

Don't mean to be rude but you guys downplay sonic a lot, especially Supersonic, who should at least be 2-B
 
Inaccessible isn't a rating and the proposal to make it a rating was rejected , you can't really give someone that.
 
Uhh was Outerversal a rating in any comics or verse? No, it being rejected doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
 
...What? Outerversal is rating on this site, which is why we give it to characters. Inaccessible isn't a rating on this site, so we can't give it.
 
Okay doesn't mean Inaccesible isn't a thing Multi Universal isn't a thing when it should be when a character is destroying multiple universal spaces
 
No I mean destroying the space of the universe no the timeline and space known as space time altogether that's why it's Multi Universal
 
and Paul Frank probably because this wiki is stupid I don't mean to be rude but the Outliers and all are sort of stupid some of the things of this wiki are stupid
 
...I can not tell what you're saying. Are you saying destroying space-time in 2-C? Because no. That's literally the baseline for Low 2-C. It's just Universe Level+.
 
Because I'm here to criticize the dumb things it does and hopefully change some things but you guys won't listen calling everything I use outliers
 
how is breaking the boundaries of dimensions portal creation explain that to me the boundaries of dimensions isn't portal creation if you mean actual dimensions that are universes maybe but even then that's just breaking the limit of a universe not really portal creation this is what I mean but this wiki is stupid
 
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