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After rewatching a few key scenes in Gravity Falls and looking at some of the scans posted, I've come to the conclusion that Bill isn't 2-A at all.
First, let's look at the key scans that justify Bill being 2-A.
Bill being a threat to the multiverse.
The multiverse is infinite.
So 2-A right? While Gravity Falls does indeed have a 2-A multiverse, being a threat to it isn't an AP feat. It's much akin to how a corrupt government isn't 6-B because "they are a threat to their country."
"But what about Time Baby stating that Bill's rip could destroy the very fabric of existence?"
The issue with this is that while it may seem 2-A, it sounds more like Time Baby is only referring to the universe. He refers to Bill's rip in "this dimension", which would make sense for the "fabric of existence" to be the universe's space-time continuum (a multiverse isn't a fabric after all). Additionally, here, Bill says "finally your dimension will be free", which only implies Bill threatening the universe.
Now for his range, it should be Universal+ like his AP. Here it states Bill has access to alternate realities, but this only implies dimensional travel. If Bill was 2-A then he wouldn't have to travel to those realities to tamper with them, he could do it from the very spot he's at.
In conclusion, Bill is Low 2-C, and only that because the context doesn't imply that he can actually bust the multiverse in one go, but rather he's a threat to it because he has the ability to travel to different universes and use his reality warping shenanigans to mess around with them.
Now for one last thing, Axolotl should have his tier changed to "At least Low 2-C" for being superior to Bill by an unquantifiable amount and have his speed changed to unknown. Existing in the "time space between time space" is vague and is not remotely an immeasurable speed feat.
Agree: 25 (ShadowWarrior1999, CinnabarManx421, ShakeResounding, Dragopentling, Antvasima, Eficiente, Js250476, Paul Frank, Psychomaster35, Jimboydejuan12, Arceus0x, DaBigP, RotofBots, PRIDEXEGO, Quantu, Saikou The Lewd King, Sir sun man, Tony di bugalu, 19hmun, Totallynotchewbacca, SomebodyData, MiamiVice43, Xerkser500, MYHERO, MagicCloud6, GabrielMaster721)
Disagree: 21 (ED INFINITUM, Tyranno223, GiverOfThePeace, Hykuu, Inverted Tempest, Kepekley23, Ultima Reality, The Arsenal1212, Dziga, The Wright Way, JooCipher, Christian Higdon, Mephistus, Iamunanimousinthat, Steven Pogi Paitao, Unoriginal Memes, Elizhaa, First Witch, LephyrTheRevanchist, SinsofMan, ZeedKrakenZilla)
Neutral: 6 (DarkDragonMedeus, DMB 1, CrimsonStarFallen, The Axiom of Virgo, Maverick Zero X, Andytremo)
First, let's look at the key scans that justify Bill being 2-A.
Bill being a threat to the multiverse.
The multiverse is infinite.
So 2-A right? While Gravity Falls does indeed have a 2-A multiverse, being a threat to it isn't an AP feat. It's much akin to how a corrupt government isn't 6-B because "they are a threat to their country."
"But what about Time Baby stating that Bill's rip could destroy the very fabric of existence?"
The issue with this is that while it may seem 2-A, it sounds more like Time Baby is only referring to the universe. He refers to Bill's rip in "this dimension", which would make sense for the "fabric of existence" to be the universe's space-time continuum (a multiverse isn't a fabric after all). Additionally, here, Bill says "finally your dimension will be free", which only implies Bill threatening the universe.
Now for his range, it should be Universal+ like his AP. Here it states Bill has access to alternate realities, but this only implies dimensional travel. If Bill was 2-A then he wouldn't have to travel to those realities to tamper with them, he could do it from the very spot he's at.
In conclusion, Bill is Low 2-C, and only that because the context doesn't imply that he can actually bust the multiverse in one go, but rather he's a threat to it because he has the ability to travel to different universes and use his reality warping shenanigans to mess around with them.
Now for one last thing, Axolotl should have his tier changed to "At least Low 2-C" for being superior to Bill by an unquantifiable amount and have his speed changed to unknown. Existing in the "time space between time space" is vague and is not remotely an immeasurable speed feat.
Agree: 25 (ShadowWarrior1999, CinnabarManx421, ShakeResounding, Dragopentling, Antvasima, Eficiente, Js250476, Paul Frank, Psychomaster35, Jimboydejuan12, Arceus0x, DaBigP, RotofBots, PRIDEXEGO, Quantu, Saikou The Lewd King, Sir sun man, Tony di bugalu, 19hmun, Totallynotchewbacca, SomebodyData, MiamiVice43, Xerkser500, MYHERO, MagicCloud6, GabrielMaster721)
Disagree: 21 (ED INFINITUM, Tyranno223, GiverOfThePeace, Hykuu, Inverted Tempest, Kepekley23, Ultima Reality, The Arsenal1212, Dziga, The Wright Way, JooCipher, Christian Higdon, Mephistus, Iamunanimousinthat, Steven Pogi Paitao, Unoriginal Memes, Elizhaa, First Witch, LephyrTheRevanchist, SinsofMan, ZeedKrakenZilla)
Neutral: 6 (DarkDragonMedeus, DMB 1, CrimsonStarFallen, The Axiom of Virgo, Maverick Zero X, Andytremo)
