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Achilles vs Professor Tsurubami

He can use all of the style except for the ones his children forged. For more information, look at his page.

Oh, I see lol
 
Also, just so we can establish that this isn't a stomp, I'm gonna go over some win conditions for each.

Achilles can potentially deal with confrontation erasure by using his massive fly by attack while aiming for something else and the doctor is just part of the fall out. His space time reconstructing field should let him defend from communication through it, and if he gets too angry.

Tsurubami can try and find the location of the weakness in Achilles defenses. He should also be able to bypass the armor of achilles with the use of his styles. He also should be able to seal Achilles if Rider doesn't take him seriously
 
Following.

Why would Rider need to take Fukurou seriously to not get sealed?
 
Fukurou uses his sealing early battle but not instantly like we have seen, at least cuz he tries for death manip if the opponent is angry, and opens with cage to try and contain his enemies since "Welcome" is usually useful for an enemy entering the area. Sealing is just good for enemies that don't take the user seriously, is what i was referencing. if he tosses up his shield, i think the connection will be cut so sealing won't work
 
Connection will be cut? What reason do we have to believe that raising a shield or taking Fukurou seriously would stop the sealing?

The sealing was said to be so useful against immortals that take the first attack because the user can get off scot-free with an insta-win, not because it doesn't work if the Labels user is taken seriously.
 
It reconstructs space time in a massive **** off barrier, so I do not think Fukurou's words or feelings will be able to reach Achilles across the protection from the concept of The World.

I know. Perhaps I was unclear. I was saying that if he takes the fight seriously and tosses up his construct of the concept of the planet, then I do not think Fukurou's words or feelings will be able to reach him, so the sealing may not work. It won't work, not directly because he is taking it seriously, but because of what he will do if he takes the fight seriously
 
Ahh okay, that's fair.

I'm gonna wait for a Fate/Grand Order expert before voting.
 
Generally, just whatever lets him win the fastest. Other than that, he makes his enemy angry, then combos that together and kills them, or he uses Contradictory Conjunction. He has also stated alternate strategies of using sealing as well, but if he thinks the enemy will break out in a short time frame he won't go for it.
 
We've seen him open with greeting an enemy to trap them in a cage, then making them angry, which he turns into making them silent, which he turns into making them dead. We've also seen him open with sealing. We've also heard him say that his favourite style is Contradictory Conjunction.
 
If his enemy rushes him, and they have a segnificant advantage, then he can take them out in basically one hit with CC
 
I'm going with Stylish Doctor. I know this is a bit NLF, but his genius could've made a thousand more applications for his styles.

From the powers he's already listed with, Isn't there a strong chance that Achilles would try rushing him? Contradictory Conjunction would counter, and then Fukurou would finish it.
 
Iapitus The Impaler said:
Tsurubami can try and find the location of the weakness in Achilles defenses. He should also be able to bypass the armor of achilles with the use of his styles. He also should be able to seal Achilles if Rider doesn't take him seriously
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I don't get this, his body is invulnurable not the armor.
 
>He should also be able to bypass the armor of achilles with the use of his styles.

If he don't have Divinity, he cant. And it's not like Achilles is actively protecting his heel for others to figure out.
 
Styles can get around some insanely potent defensive abilities, such as Iihiko Shishime's.

@Iapitus Were styles ever shown to get around Encounter?
 
If you look at Achilles profile it said that you need Divinity or hit his heel just to damage him.
 
And if you look at Iihiko's profile you need to have him recognize an attack to be able to damage him or have an ability work on him.

Styles got around that defensive hax.

I think styles might also work on plot-based defenses to a certain extent?
 
I don't even want to use Iihiko as a reason cause he's massive NLF like Ajimu.
 
John985 said:
If you look at Achilles profile it said that you need Divinity or hit his heel just to damage him.
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Divinity itself lets you bypass defensive hax, and styles can do that as well
 
John985 said:
I don't even want to use Iihiko as a reason cause he's massive NLF like Ajimu.
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Ajimu's not NLF, she's just unknown, we don't know enough about her so people wank what little we do know (she has a skill called become god skill! wow she's tier 1-A!)

Either way we know that styles can get around some absurdly specific defensive hax.

@Iapitus Where does the "Styles can get around plot-based defences" thing come from? And where does the "The vibrations of styles can get around defensive techniques" thing come from?
 
>Divinity itself lets you bypass defensive hax, and styles can do that as well

Pretty sure your talking about rapture, it was the same skill as sacred fig of Saver or something, not enough info about it though. So got no idea what it can do.

@Agnaa

The reason I use NLF it's because of quadrillion skill or something, that's one of the reason I really avoid Medaka Box.
 
Sure but Iihiko only has three skills. Only two are actually skills and one's just being good with weapons.
 
John985 said:
>Divinity itself lets you bypass defensive hax, and styles can do that as well
Pretty sure your talking about rapture, it was the same skill as sacred fig of Saver or something, not enough info about it though. So got no idea what it can do.

The reason I use NLF it's because of quadrillion skill or something, that's one of the reason I really avoid Medaka Box.
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Idk what Rapture is. We know that divinity of a high enough rank can reduce anti-purge defenses and bypass defensive hax.

What? I don't understand your point here
 
Agnaa wrote
@Iapitus Where does the "Styles can get around plot-based defences" thing come from? And where does the "The vibrations of styles can get around defensive techniques" thing come from?

I think from 2 cases, but I was not the one who created the profiles. Styles can threaten Iihiko despite his hero status, and Kamome Tsurubami was able to defeat Medaka (although she quickly defeated him back). Ant is the one who made the profile tho, I think. You should ask him

nvm, no he isn't lol. it was Kami Yashi who did
 
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