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Holy Mami vs Caster Merlin

Why is he battling for 6-C

Like he has 6-C dura but not AP
 
Yeah he should battle for 7B since he's that physically

Anyway Mami mindhaxes
 
His primary means of attacking is 6-C. His profile is rather deceptive, but his Holy Sword that he swings around is basically his main combat mode
 
Schnee One said:
Yeah he should battle for 7B since he's that physically
Anyway Mami mindhaxes
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Also nah, cuz even if a low form gets incapacitated then the higher form just spawns another one
 
Why would his higher form spawn another if it isn't dead?

And she can literally sit there and keep mindhaxing as long as she wants.
 
First Witch said:
Why is Goetia linked instead of actually Merlin.
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Because I posted on mobile so wrote in source mode and I accidentally reversed the profile and what I was labeling the link
 
Schnee One said:
Why would his higher form spawn another if it isn't dead?
And she can literally sit there and keep mindhaxing as long as she wants.
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Because his lower form is no use to him if it does not function

His true self is in another plane, so he just dreams up a new one. He can also passively incap with his empathic manipulation, as I was discussing with Overlord on the other thread
 
I sincerely doubt his higher form will just spawn a new one after one of them isn't even dead.
 
Schnee One said:
I sincerely doubt his higher form will just spawn a new one after one of them isn't even dead.
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His lower form is to entertain his higher form essentially. His lower form getting mind hax isn't entertaining to watch. Iirc he also did at one point just spawn in a new location while his other form wasn't dead
 
Then Mami continiously mindhaxes until it gets so boring he pulls them away.

Also, isn't he Baseline 6C?
 
Nah, because he can also spawn in her day dreams. He also has his passive empathic manipulation. Also I'm pretty sure Merlin needs resistance to mind hax since end the worst magus has magic resistance (including mind hax) and he is the very pinnacle of both Casters and Mages, and he is comparable to Solomon. I don't know exactly how far above baseline his holy sword is
 
Basic magic resistance isn't crap to Mami who bypasses Magicak girl Mind resistance with her own potency

Also I don't think he can affect an Abstract
 
It's not base level either.

I already went down the line with Overlord about why is empathic manipulation will work on her. See the other thread. I would prefer not to have to repeat it all again.
 
Considering she is literally a runout then I'm pretty sure she falls under the latter,

Even assuming this was true and he can affect her, which I doubt, then it becomes a stomp in the other direction

The match isn't good.

Edit: Mami resists mindhax anyway
 
Idk what a run out is. Also, he can spawn in her day dreams to avoid mind hax.

Yeah, I know. Overlord insisted I make it. I kinda figured it was gonna be a stomp but it will at least let us figure out the strongest 6-C.

Merlin doesn't use conventional mind hax, and uses empathic manip that bypasses resistance to it anyway because of how it works
 
She's a runout

Appearing in her dreams and not being able to do anything to them is a win by incap
 
Rumour. ******* auto correct

She is completely unaffected by him while his Avatar is permanetely in her daydream, that's hardly an Incon
 
He either spawns them in her day dream where they can't do shit to her and are trapped it Mami sits there and thinks until Merlin is so bored he pulls them away
 
Yeah. But she can enjoy the company of her friends and their personality right? Madoka could do that and she wasn't any more abstract. She still liked Homura even after her ascension into abstraction

And she cannot effect him either. He actually stalemated Cu alter until his higher form woke up by this very method. It's also not permanent anyway
 
Unless he can affect an abstract I don't see why her being able to feel emotions either

And he's stuck in her daydream while Mami can carry out her everyday life, that's not Incon

And if it isn't permanent then she wins
 
Schnee One said:
He either spawns them in her day dream where they can't do shit to her and are trapped it Mami sits there and thinks until Merlin is so bored he pulls them away
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He actually stalemates people by spawning in their day dream where they cannot escape or effect him, even if he is unable to effect them either
 
Schnee One said:
Unless he can affect an abstract I don't see why her being able to feel emotions either
And he's stuck in her daydream while Mami can carry out her everyday life, that's not Incon

And if it isn't permanent then she wins
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I already said on the other thread. His empathic manipulation is not conventional, and if she can enjoy the company of her friends or like their personality then they can be effected.

Nope, because she cannot effect him and he cannot effect her. This is assuming she doesn't get incapacitated by his empathic manip anyway

It will last long enough to incap her at least. Either way, if he cannot incap her then they stalemate
 
Mami constantly defeating him by thinking is hardly an Incon, and I still doubt he will bring in Avatars if he's bored to death by them getting defeated over and over
 
Schnee One said:
Are any of them abstract or mind resistant to Mami's degree?
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Merlin's dream manip isnt mind hax. If he can spawn in her day dream, then it does not matter why he cannot effect them
 
Schnee One said:
Mami constantly defeating him by thinking is hardly an Incon, and I still doubt he will bring in Avatars if he's bored to death by them getting defeated over and over
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He just spawns in her day dream or out of range. If he cares enough to try and defeat her he will, which considering the match I assume he does
 
He isn't going to keep trying to defeat her if he can't.

And yet again he needs feats of doing it or he can't put them in a daydream of an abstract

<Out of Range

Which is Self BFR
 
He sat in the dream of a being he knew he couldn't defeat just to stall them out for days on end. Merlin is a pretty enough of a bastard that he would

Effecting an abstract with his day dream thing no, but the empathic manip will work because he isn't effecting her mind in a way that it would matter if she was abstract or not

Out of her range, not his.
 
Stalling out for days doesn't really work under SBA though
 
Iapitus The Impaler said:
He sat in the dream of a being he knew he couldn't defeat just to stall them out for days on end.

Effecting an abstract with his day dream thing no, but the empathic manip will work because he isn't effecting her mind in a way that it would matter if she was abstract or not
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Please explain how it can get around abstract existence because without feats that mind might as well not even be there.

Her range is ridiculously higher tho
 
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