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Fight take place in Karakura
Who win and why?
Fight take place in Karakura
Who win and why?
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DontTalk said:Do you mean him?
I will assume so. So this might be a guess, but I would doubt that supernatural ink falls in the catergory of things accelerator doesn't redirect.
As far as I (and his page) remeber all of his name changing hax require that the opponent was hit with such a thing, so it likely won't do the trick.
Accelerator is only High Hypersonic with Massively Hypersonic reactions/close combat speed (he kept up with Gabriel and FUZE=Kazakiri during WWIII) while Ichibei is MHS+ he gets blizt before he can even think, his field is no different from Niazol's who was bypass by Senjumaru's speed. Saying he can block much faster attacks than he's own is a NLF.Promestein said:Accelerator doesn't need to move.
Passive vector shield will reflect anything Ichibei throws at him, as he isn't fast enough to get around it.
Vektor shield auto reflects anything up to 2 times the speed of light specifically. (which is noted on his profile)HokageMangaVox said:That's assuming Accelerator can react and move in time.
Characters are not bloodluste, in character he will let them through. He can also use the temple to take the color from within the field, he doesn't need to touch him with anything for this to work.Promestein said:Accelerator's vector shield passively reflects light and gravity, and the only reason he's affected by them is because he lets them through. As DT said, it reflects anything up to two times the speed of light, lightspeed post-headshot, and much higher in his angel forms, I believe.
Ichibei is not getting through that shield.
Promestein said:The point I was making is that Accelerator's barrier is fast enough to reflect things travelling at lightspeed, so it's fast enough to reflect Ichibei's attacks. And, as stated on his profile, "Accelerator's passive application of his esper ability. He automatically inverts the direction of any incoming harmful vectors, even if he is unaware of their presence. He must consciously allow things like gravity, sound and light to affect him, but he can shut them off too if he wants it. "
so can his ability work on Futen Daisatsuryō? since that attack is not an direct attack that he can just Redirection/Reflection but that attack is pretty much take whatever darkness from his opponent body and soul.Promestein said:The point I was making is that Accelerator's barrier is fast enough to reflect things travelling at lightspeed, so it's fast enough to reflect Ichibei's attacks. And, as stated on his profile, "Accelerator's passive application of his esper ability. He automatically inverts the direction of any incoming harmful vectors, even if he is unaware of their presence. He must consciously allow things like gravity, sound and light to affect him, but he can shut them off too if he wants it. "
Tivanenk said:While he can brush off the ink, if Ichibei Shikais, he can control the black around Accelerator and coat him with it, cutting his power. Then kill him with the Mausoleum. I doubt Accelerator can redirect concepts.
Not Jim Sterling said:Ichibē power allow him to control all darkness, so nobody else can control his power other than himself, I think.
Ichibe's power can be stolen he said so himself, but it cannot be used againt's him. It just returns to him again. Well, none of Yhwach's attacks actually cut his darkness away.DontTalk said:Again, there is a difference between manipulating the movement of darkness and stealing his power. If nothing else could effect the darkness he controls it would be an all cutting sword since nothing could ever stop a swing of the darkness, since that would mean effecting it in its movement.Not Jim Sterling said:Ichibē power allow him to control all darkness, so nobody else can control his power other than himself, I think.
Ichibē's power can not be stolen, but aside from that it is basically like water bending just with darkness (and of course the name stuff).
Darkness that he can turn into ink, he cannot "light up the room" and hope for it to go away.Reppuzan said:Darkness is simply the absence of light, and Accelerator can control light so...
Reppuzan said:Once again, it's not Accelerator is taking his power, he's just directing it away from him.
Besides, ink is a trivial thing for Accelerator to manipulate, and so is light.
Then how about this?Not Jim Sterling said:so can his ability work on Futen Daisatsuryō? since that attack is not an direct attack that he can just Redirection/Reflection but that attack is pretty much take whatever darkness from his opponent body and soul.
Why can't he control black to coat Accelerator and rename Accel?LordAizenSama said:reading this thread made me sigh.
Accelerator wins or draws here. Ichibei can't hit him. ichibei can make it inconclusive by superior speed staying out of range or running away. if he stays too close and he risks his body being manipulated at a distance
similiarly if he goes for a physical close combat move first it won't end well for him either.
Why not?LordAizenSama said:he can't coat accelerator to begin with. thats why.