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Composite Human vs Master Chief

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Yeah, no dumb title.

9-B (Armorless) Chief vs 9-C (which should kinda be 9-B) Dood. Speed Equal. 10 Meter starting distance.

Forgot about this:

Chief is 57,600 Joules

CH should be above 7,500 physically and his dura. at least 41,000 to 79,360 Joules.

Equipment: Chief has a SAW and a BR. CH has an RPG-7, 9-B AAS and a pair of grenades.

Master Chief: 7 (Versus & his gang)

Composite Human: 1 (Ben Shapiro)
 
Probably going to have to give this one to Master Chief. In the first round, Master Chief has demonstrated hand-to-hand combat skills that are likely beyond what can realistically be achieved, although I will confess I'm not quite certain about that. For the second round, definitely Master Chief. His Magnum should be smaller and faster than Composite Human's weapons, which when mixed with his attack & reaction speed should allow him to get the first shot in. Composite Human mainly seems to have his durability because of the man with a ridiculous bone mass, but just 1 or 2 shots should at least be able to stagger them long enough to be finished off. Probably Master Chief for first round, definitely for second round (unless I missed something important). 1+ vote for Master Chief.
 
Round 1. CH out skills. There's no freaking way Chief has mastered every single martial art in the history of mankind, not does he have all the experience of mankind to back it up.

Round 2. Once again, sheer skill goes to CH. Although I'll hold of voting until someone explains how Chief's weapons work.
 
I'm not sure what exactly I was thinking when I said MC would win round 1. I still think he has the advantage on round 2, but what in the f*** was going through my mind when I made that first post. XDDDDD
 
CH has an overwhelming advantage in skills and such, but MC does have some Superhuman features he does not. One of them being the ability to learn, and think much much faster than a peak Human. IE his reflexes are much higher on the Suubsonic scale

John also one-shots if he manages to get close so I'd argue R1 is a complete stomp.
 
I don't think this can be added with two rounds, so I'd remove one of the matches.

Also, speed equal lul.
 
CH's only advantage without weapons is his inteligence. But that would do him little good against someone who is much stronger than a previous feat that would one-shot CH
 
CH's advantage is an extremely overwhelming skill advantage, knowledge of biology, strategy, etc.

I'd rather OP specify things though.
 
This one's simple. Composite Human outskills, and since they both will recieve heavy if not lethal damage from any weapons they take, Composite Human wins. CH outskills and kills with guns and 'splosions.
 
UNSC weapons are generally superior to 21'st century firearms. MC is higher up in 9-B than your typical large animal, so he can tank more bullets than CH can. MC has objectively better stamina and pain tolerance than any Human that has ever lived. Baring those guys who can't feel pain cuz genetics

Additonally, the AAS is 9-C, unless it uses explosive rounds. So Master Chief can tank it. CH's best chance are with either the RPG-7 or the grenades. But they would probably need to directly strike MC in order to kill him.

MC in character tends to go straight for the head with his weapons.

Nothing conclusive yet, but I'm lightly leaning towards Chief.
 
VersusJunkie54 said:
Baring those guys who can't feel pain cuz genetics
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Composite Human has immunity to pain manipulation, and being Composite Human, basically can't feel pain.

It's weird, I know.

As well, the AAS was listed as 9-B AAS.

9-B is a weird tier. People high in 9-B can still be penetrated by bullets for the most part, despite the massive low to high gap.

 
Not feeling pain can actually be a disadvantage at a point. Since you have no idea if your body has been shredded by bullets or a grenade. Especially when you don't have Regenerationn
 
That was one of the main argument points against and for adding it. But it's there.
 
Not gonna vote yet but the reasonings for Chief seem pretty good.

CH has ginormous amounts of talent, but if unarmed and put against foes considerably stronger than him in all regards minus speed, combat really isn't gonna do much to save him from getting poked.
 
He is armed. Very much so.
 
Right, and either of their weapons can kill the other with relative ease, so durability is less of a factor in this fight. Difference is, CH has massive to near pain immunity and far, far outskills Chief with guns. Hell, he could use his mastery of all things physics to take in account the wind if he so desires.

Point is, if both of them have weapons that kill the other easily, then I'm going for the higher skilled one.
 
That's the problem. CH not being able to feel pain, as Junkie puts it, is also a disadvantage, since he wouldn't be able to feel anything if shot and would die within moments. Also, CH would have to concentrate really, really hard to make the wind come to his advantage, something the Chief simply won't give him time to do.

And Chief wouldn't be any worse when it comes to aiming with pinpoint precision, AFAIK.
 
KLOL506 said:
That's the problem. CH not being able to feel pain, as Junkie puts it, is also a disadvantage, since he wouldn't be able to feel anything if shot and would die within moments. Also, CH would have to concentrate really, really hard to make the wind come to his advantage, something the Chief simply won't give him time to do.
And Chief wouldn't be any worse when it comes to aiming with pinpoint precision, AFAIK.
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It doesn't matter if he's shot. If he's shot, he's injured; but what matters more is that he can continue firing even when shot. Chief not only can't aim and shoot and fight as well as CH, but can't endure the pain.

If CH gets shot, he keeps on shooting until the end.

If Chief gets shot, the pain puts him down for the count.

And when CH outskills, who's likely to get shot first?
 
Chief can take a lot more hits than CH can. CH is limited to using shotguns, grenades and RPGs, which are more cumbersome than what Chief is using. And I'm pretty sure that the AA-12 shotgun has shit range compared to Chief's assault rifles. Not to mention that Chief also has what it takes to keep on gunning until he eventually dies of blood loss.

Skill can only get one so far.
 
MC has much greater durability than your typical large animal, such as a bear. His bones, muscles, are all hardened far beyond what any Human that has ever lived has had. The most durable people genetically possible in history were likely pushing low wall level at best.

MC and other Spartans can take some pretty nasty injuries and keep on fighting. They've dealt with crippling pain of all kinds for decades. Spartans have amazing pain tolerance.

MC's weapons are more longer range than CH's too. Shotguns don't do terribly well at a distance. And if Chief closes the distance..... its over period. No amount of skill is gonna help you beat someone who can one hit kill you several times over.
 
Forgot about this:

Chief is 57,600 Joules

I dont know about CH but it should be above 7,500 physically and his dura. at least 41,000 Joules.
 
Isn't he only 7500 with a tackle?

57600 joules was when he was 14 after his augmentations. So as an adult, he'd be >> a feat that is 7.68 times CH's durability. So a single punch would cripple, if not kill him instantly.
 
CH is 8170 joules physically with bone exceeding that of a normal person's (Which is 9920 joules).

But CH really can't do H2H combat with someone like Chief because his striking strength pales in comparison to that of Chief's.
 
The high end for the bone would be around 79K considering he is 8 times the strongest bones in the body.
 
No at best he has a gap of 1.3x (57K for John's AP and at most 79K for CH's thick bones)
 
KarmodF said:
The high end for the bone would be around 79K considering he is 8 times the strongest bones in the body.
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Actually, CH's dura is 8x greater than a weakened upper arm bone of a dead 56-year-old lady.

But like Junkie said, CH gets rekt if he tries H2H with John.
 
Because that's the best one we've got right now. Tests haven't been done on a healthy human specimen for obvious reasons.
 
But isn't that the absolute high end for a bone break? Bones take more or less energy to break depending on where the energy is directed right?
 
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