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Digimon Q&A Thread

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So I will be blunt, the level Digimon is rated on this site is very shocking and possibly even sketchy to some. The reason behind this is that most knowledge extends to only the anime and even then certain details of the anime are missed due to translation between dub and sub. There is also the issue of people not knowing what is and isn't canon and simply not knowing the very extensive lore and the philosophy of the series.

Here if you have any question about anything, ask it here. I know Ex wanted a Q&A blog, but for those of this site, a thread is better and it allows for easier access. Also you may also ask about details regarding future revisions as well in order to keep up with blogs (Ex can probably update us here as well if he wants instead of always having to go to our walls each time).

So basically, ask away.
 
You should probably mention this thread exists to people who've been shocked about the ratings before.
 
Ok so let me go straight into the good stuff. Dark Area Digimons. From what i hear they are infinite in speed since Dark Area is a true void by our standards.

Why is anime Devimon different though? He still has the non existant traits, though why is he not infinite?
 
We tend to keep Infinite speed reserved for the Databook/Composite pages as the anime is...weird to say the least. Dealing with the anime with Dark Area lore is tricky. This is likely one of the things that will be covered in the huge revision Ex is planning.

Tbh I do not know how to handle it.
 
Digimon is a huge series with long power-scaling chains, so it gets tricky. If we just say X is superior to Y who has Z feat, the question would become "why is X superior to Y when they never interacted", so the long chains.

There's probably a better reasoning, but that's how I interrupted it.
 
Some do, not all as of now. I've been working on so many other verses that I have not gotten to it.
 
About the Dark Area, this is really being revised. That doubt is not only about Digimon's cosmology, but about how the stories are conceived. The truth is that as Digimon is a franchise that goes through the hands of many people, contradictory ideas end up being put within the same story, and this often makes it confusing how things should be analyzed within a vision directed to a website that aims to index the characters status. There are things that simply should be considered plotholes without explanation so that it makes sense within a larger vision within the franchise. So the new blogs are taking a long time to come out, I'm reviewing all I can about Digimon's own history as a franchise to be able to define how cosmology should work and how to put it on pages in a way that it can still be consistent with the big part of the storyline.

Currently I think it will make a lot of sense to put the Digimon with two versions per profile. One for the original nature of the Digimon as transcendent beings that exist in a Platonic conceptual world and another for the physical form resulting from distortions in space. So we can have both the statistics relating to the abstract side of some characters and the more "physical" side. However doing this would generally lead to doubling the number of keys in each profile, so for this I'm planning on revisiting all of the Digimon pages on this Wiki to see if the profiles can be narrowed down and make it simpler to explain. (To be honest, at that point a page about "Digimon Physiology" could greatly reduce the content on the Digimon page and facilitate the understanding of what is in it).

I can only guarantee that after the Blog the situation of the Dark Area along with "infinite speed" will improve a lot (Even more considering that this can be changed to simply "Immeasurable".)

On 4-B, I still do not understand for sure why to be 4-B. The Digimon feats are constantly Tier 4 for characters close to Perfect or higher (Wendimon, Starmon X-Antibody, DarkSuperStarmon, Metal Greymon, Chaos Etemon, Sephirothmon, Gerbemon, Datamon, etc.) and although it would make sense if these made from File Island's Digimon to scale to Folder Continent, but that's not the case. The feats of virtually all of these characters are from after the Digimon Pendulum and the few who still have versions of File Island ... were not the ones who performed the feats Tier 4 (Like Digitamamon and Etemon). I also think that I'll revise that power level.

Speed I'm still not sure, I think what is missing is a larger amount of Digimon with feats of that level to have profiles to justify the speed of the characters. Overall, I believe the Tiers of all Characters from the Perfect level and upwards will be revised (especially Tier 2) as well as speed.
 
I'm going to be completely serious and honest, I still doubt infinite speed for Dark Area Digimon. Lore or not, it's contradicted at literally every turn. I don't have a problem with nonexistence at all, but other than the tier 2s, they have no showings of that speed at all, and are constantly kept up with by non-infinite Digimon that they canonically get stomped by. I always had a terrible time believing BlackWarGreymon would get infinitely blitzed by DemiDevimon.
 
The real cal howard said:
I'm going to be completely serious and honest, I still doubt infinite speed for Dark Area Digimon. Lore or not, it's contradicted at literally every turn. I don't have a problem with nonexistence at all, but other than the tier 2s, they have no showings of that speed at all, and are constantly kept up with by non-infinite Digimon that they canonically get stomped by. I always had a terrible time believing BlackWarGreymon would get infinitely blitzed by DemiDevimon.
I think it's a problem of you not believing that DemiDevimon is the true god of Digimon smh.

Either way, I have gone on record saying that I am not a fan of it tbh.
 
Yeah, the two key system will work wonders and explain a ton of things tbh. And honestly was a long time coming.
 
I think I will post this on this thread for everyone to see.

I think we used the fact that a File Island MetalGreymon would still be superior to Wendimon and we applied the multiplier to Ultimates. If that's not true then that one is on me (Hey, look...Cal was right. And he says he can't contribute much to Digimon Revisions). Although now that it hits me, don't File Island Child Digimon cale to the accepted multiplier or is it only Adults? If so, I am sure Folder Continent Child maybe stronger than the Guilmon feat.

Also, Also, I have started the Kernel profile ....the hard part is not overlapping abilities....
 
I'm not much in favor of PowerScalling without direct mention or a motive other than "I think it's something that makes sense," there's no Wendimon relation with File Island's Perfects, so I do not think it's fair to put a multiplier in that.

I think the scale of the Adults is fair because we have a direct relation between the exploits being native to File Island and having Folder Continent versions of those Digimon.

I do not think putting a multiplier for the Childs is of much use, all the feats we have of the Childs are after the original Digital Monster, so we do not have a File Island feat to use in later Childs.
 
There may be more downgrades, more upgrades and lots of Digimon changes here at VsBattles. I believe that in the future Digimon profiles will eventually become unrecognizable with what they are now.
 
My current goal in this review is to make digimon profiles simpler (so my eyes do not get hurt every time I try to read the profile of some Tier 2 character from Digimon), easy to understand and more straightforward.

When a profile, blog or any text is well done and with a pleasing appearance, I feel like reading just because of it (I've read the blogs of SMT, TES and others often because of this). In the current situation of Digimon, I do not feel the same pleasure in reading as it is with other profiles (Maybe it's because as much of the content is my own, I may be more critical of what I did than the others), so I want you now to help make the Digimon franchise as a whole more enjoyable for anyone who wanted to read and understand.

That's also why I'm going to make blogs more dedicated to the VsB model, so my blogs were ambiguous because they were made in a way that anyone who wanted to know about Digimon could understand, even without looking from VsB's point of view, but I think by doing this I make blogs incompatible with the VsB template. So that's why I'm developing the Digimon History blog from a neutral point of view just to inform how the franchise has developed, so in the next blogs that information be transcribed so that it fits in a coherent way to this Wikia system.
 
I know I'll help, and I'm sure others will as well. I am looking forward to what Digimon looks like in the future. I will state that a Digimon Physiology page will not help as much, hence why I was so against it before. I'm not exactly fond of it now, but if that becomes a must via these revisions, I'll actually admit that.......Bob was right.......I died a little saying that....>.>

Either way, I am sure that making it correspond to this system helps here. Based upon info Ex has given me, I have talked to a few people off site (I think that's the least I can do to help Ex. It makes things go more smoothly) and I think we got "At least 1-C, possibly higher" God Tiers confirmed even without the complete info.

The accuracy of the files is the best however. Also, if we do get major upgrades, "Lucemon gets upgraded by doing absolutely nothing" will continue for another revolution. ovo
 
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