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The Final Boss - Kessler vs The Didactic (Grace)

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I miss something about the Composer that Kessler Resists

Otherwise

That gg
 
Oh snap I forgot he had that


But would having resistance to being turned into a different state of matter work against transmutation that turns people into data?
 
I mean, I guess Kessler could scale to having resistance to that

Alright, so, I'll wait for Versus to provide insight on other stuff the Halo boi can pull

Also hecking respond to SAO Tabletop vs inFAMOUS dang it
 
I'm just saying that resisting one form of transmutation doesn't mean your resistant to all forms of transmutation, like how we treat existence erasure and such

I was gosh dammit but I got sidetracked
 
Well, Didact has matter manipulation that turns you to 0s and 1s, and Kessler resist stuff that turns you to particals of light and the like

I think it's close enough to consider that this won't end in "Hax gg"
 
PTSOXMONKEY99 said:
Oh snap I forgot he had that


But would having resistance to being turned into a different state of matter work against transmutation that turns people into data?
This is also noting that even if Kessler were to resist transmutation, his mind would likely be sealed off.
 
Is that directly connected to turning to data or does it require being turned to data to actually mindhax?

Speaking of which Kessler also resists that
 
That's not mindhax, that's sealing

And that's unknown, though it makes sense it doesn't need it to considering that transmutation is meant to feed the composer while sealing is an added effect to fully defeat opponents
 
I mean, he'd need to be able to put them into a form that can be sealed logically. Does he have feats of sealing non composed things? If not I don't think it's all that reasonable assumption to say "seal GG" if there's no indication it can seal stuff that isn't exactly easy to store

Then we go into typical Kessler meta, Phantasms, ranged spam, and the works. How does Didact hold up to that?
 
That makes absolutely no sense

You need to be in a form that can be logically sealed

When you're physical form has absolutely nothing to do with you're non corporal mind

Like what?
 
Also does Kessler resist Virtualizatio, not just Transmutation, as there is a huge difference between transforming into matter and transforming into data.
 
Data is stored by electric based patterns of 0s and 1s from my understanding

The matter manipulation Kessler scales to resisting eats electricity and converts it to energy
 
300 meters and one shot worthy AP makes this hard to decide

Again though Composer sealing
 
Are you trying to say that Electric Manip. gives you resistance to Virtualization? Because I seriously dont know if it would work like that tbh, we need a professional in that case.
 
He has to lift his hand to activate the Composer, right?

Or was it thought?
 
KarmodF said:
Are you trying to say that Electric Manip. gives you resistance to Virtualization? Because I seriously dont know if it would work like that tbh, we need a professional in that case.
Not electricity manipulation

Macro Quantium matter manipulation

This bois ability

Which Cole is able to resist at the beginning of inFAMOUS 2 and thereby scales to Kessler's resistance
 
DMUA said:
He has to lift his hand to activate the Composer, right?

Or was it thought?
Thought based afaik, but nearly all Forerunner tech. is thought based so I think it isnt too much of a strech.

Also does Kessler resist Telekinesis?
 
Not really, though he has his own TK methods which are Class G to Class 10 on Didact's part
 
If he has his own TK he has a method by which he can fight TK and thereby with higher lifting strength should be just fine dealing with.

Not to mention Kessler can summon Phantasms that Didact would have to kinda shift his focus to deal with, lest he basically has his brain melt to a puddle.
 
Yes, they are tied (with Kessler having an advantage), whats the AP difference?

Didact is 30 megatons or more, low balled i think is around 16-18 megatons.
 
Kessler>>>>>>Alden>>>>>>>Cole and Sasha>>>>BoG Cole who survived 28 megatons

Didact is 30

So one shot worthy
 
Kessler is "so absolutely ludicrously bonkers omegabiggaytriple ultra above 22.5 or something Megatons that if we were able to put pluses without calcs we would"

Aslo, Kessler's physicals are class 10, his TK is Class G
 
So aprox. 56+ Megatons or 40+ Megatons? Then If BFR nor Composer work he would fight both Long and CQC with weaponry, thats when he becames unpredicatble when it comes to what he can really do in a 1v1.
 
There really isn't an exact value

Though if he has a massive scaling chain over fodders who are only 2 megatons weaker then Didact then Didact is going to take a massive amount of damage each attack if not a one shot
 
KarmodF said:
So aprox. 56+ Megatons or 40+ Megatons?
More just vastly above 28 Megatons to the point he's probably around 55 by what we're allowed
 
So If Mind sealing and BFR doesnt work then I would go Kessler, since just Virtualization doesnt work and he goes CQC his only option is to Adapt and revive over and over wich can give Kessler the upper hand and adapt strategically so he can latter incap.
 
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