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Kamijou Touma vs. Ainz Ooal Gown

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Grasp Heart gg, cuz Touma isn't fast enough to close the distance.

The only way I can see him survivng is if IB nulls the instant death that targets him.
 
Pretty much what I was saying yeah. Unless Ainz sees a basic human going for a punch and just lets it through (unlikely), Touma is screwed.

I am wondering though, in the third episode(I think?), Index says that IB will cancel the healing magic if Touma is still in the room so does that just neg Ainz's spells? Even if it does, Touma needs to touch Ainz directly for a kill (good thing he leaves his robe open at the front) while Ainz just needs to hit anywhere but his right hand.
 
IIRC, Ainz' instant death spells strengthened with special skills allowing him easily pierce spell resistances of the foes.
 
Since Grasp Heart doesn't actually just affect the heart, but is an instant death spell it might get negated similar to how Touma negated Aureolus Izzards "die" spell on Himegami by just touching some random part of her.


That said while probably being able to defend against Ainz magic, ultimately Ainz can simply physically beat him down.
 
Undead is a natural phenomenon in the world of Yggdrasil. Evidence for this is Guu assuming Ainz is a quote "Mere skeleton". Should undead and skeletons NOT be a natural occurance, Guu would've had NO idea what the hell Ainz was. You think Guu does research?

Assuming verse equalization means that in this neutral world, Ainz is a natural occurance (An undead, that is). Meaning IB will do jack all to Ainz.
 
AnonymousBlank said:
Esper powers are also a natural thing in To Aru, IB ruins that stuff no problem.
Not true.

an Esper's powers are explicitly supernatural. It's bending and ignoring the normal laws of physics which that alone is anything BUT natural Meanwhile, Espers use an AIM Diffusion Field for their powers, which is basically the manipulation of this supernatural energy.

"Due to their supernatural origin, the Imagine Breaker can nullify the parts of AIM diffusion fields it touches, and their effects with it.[21][22][23][24] The effects of the Imagine Breaker on the AIM diffusion fields can be used as a way to monitor its power.[23]"
 
That too. Even if Kamijou 1-shots Ainz, Ainz resurrects and just throws a rock at him from the air and crushes.
 
Akreious said:
Undead is a natural phenomenon in the world of Yggdrasil. Evidence for this is Guu assuming Ainz is a quote "Mere skeleton". Should undead and skeletons NOT be a natural occurance, Guu would've had NO idea what the hell Ainz was. You think Guu does research?
Assuming verse equalization means that in this neutral world, Ainz is a natural occurance (An undead, that is). Meaning IB will do jack all to Ainz.
Nah, IB "negation" works by returning everything to the natural untouched phase. Ainz may be natural to his world but he is not natural in this base phase so he would be negated like everything else

Not a vote btw
 
It was a stomp then because the starting range is by default way out of toumas reach. Here it is only 5 metres as stated in the OP.

Ainz is super arrogant against humans. I would not be surprised if he allowed them to strike him like he did those fodder thieves.
 
KuuIchigo said:
Ainz is super arrogant against humans.
You completely and totally misunderstand the character of Ainz.

He had info on every single person and made sure none of them was a threat through himself and demiurge. This is a battle against someone unknown, in which Ainz would be paranoid. I assure you....he isn't going to let someone who he has no idea about touch him willingly.
 
KuuIchigo said:
It was a stomp then because the starting range is by default way out of toumas reach. Here it is only 5 metres as stated in the OP.
Also please read the profile.

Intelligence: Expert strategist in combat. Always tries to fight with knowledge of his enemy, and doesn't underestimate his opponents.

Also 5 meters is enough with speed equalized and him only needing to think to teleport
 
If Touma tries to punch Ainz would block his fist.

Since this gets him killed, pretty sure Touma just runs up and punches him In this case

Voting Touma
 
I'll give you that he has some info about the ppl he fights, but I don't think Ainz is not going to be paranoid against a unarmed teenager.

Ainz spell arsenal is for the majority useless here. This is going to end in CQC one way or another and Touma is much better at that than Ainz is.
 
The only way hat Ainz could know that IB is something dangerous is via ESP. If he can see the flow of mana/magic in the world, he would notice that Touma's hand is literally a black void due to negating it.
 
Schnee One said:
If Touma tries to punch Ainz would block his fist.
Since this gets him killed, pretty sure Touma just runs up and punches him In this case

Voting Touma
Its already been explained why that isn't the case and you are deliberailty disregarding his profile Intelligence without any real explanation other than "Ainz would block his fist"...
 
Fun Fact, Intelligent people block or redirect attacks

I know, people who are smart incorporate Hand to hand Fighting? Incredible!
 
Schnee One said:
Intelligent people block or redirect attacks
I know, people who are smart incorporate Hand to hand Fighting? Incredible?!
You are saying a magic caster with teleportation and no knowledge on his opponent who is used to fighting people with prior knowledge on them, would "block his fist".

Incredible indeed.
 
Ainz is not going to run away from humans. Jesus. The dude would never be able to leave his house if he was as scared of fighting people as you're leading on.

And once again, I remind you, Ainz' abilties are all getting negated one way or another this is ending in CQC whether he runs away or not.
 
Schnee One said:
You are saying a magic caster with teleportation and no knowledge on his opponent who is used to fighting people with prior knowledge on them, would "block his fist".
Incredible indeed.
Again, Knowledge....

In that same episode/volume he asks Aura how strong they are, who can sense out monster strengths....part of the reason why he brought her along...so he knew he was weak.

Goodness
 
Guu is clearly less threatening than Touma though. I mean, what is a small building sized troll to an average boy.
 
Funnily enough, I think that just proved my point.

He literally brought himself a threat detector, lol
 
Jugger47 said:
Again, Knowledge....

In that same episode/volume he asks Aura how strong they are, who can sense out monster strengths....part of the reason why he brought her along...so he knew he was weak.

Goodness
You mean sensing power levels is all it requires for Ainz to figure they are weak? not take any further preparations? hes sure enough to literally just stand there and get hit over and over?

well he is going to underestimate Touma badly and die.
 
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