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Gravity falls CRT, definition of insanity edition.

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There are far too many of this, so I'll cut it short.

Time Baby has no reason to be low 2-C, and I don't think I need to explain why governing something is equal to being able to destroyit. If there is another reason for him to be low 2-C, great, bring it up and will have the profile updated.

I doubt him destroying the world count either, as we have no idea how he does it and the one instancewe see him flying around in the future he was simply laser blasting people with his forehead.

Plus, doesn't it govern over multiple timelines? Not that it matters.


Bill's Friends should get two keys, as they aren't always giant and amped by Bill.


I also would like to know in which comic/page Bill had absorbed multiple timelines. The only mention I could find to the nightmare realm was in Lost Legends, but it's a one-panel apearence where the only thing you see is a bill statue saying "he was the worst" and one of his minions.


If he has no 2-C feats, and baby isn't low 2-C, then what is his reasoning for low 2-C?

He was only going to destroy the universe over time because of its rules being broken, which is not aplicable to anything but enviremental destruction.

Him controlling space time is only High 3-A
 
the 2-C thing wasn't him absorbing realities like everyone says it was more of there just are realities and mabel transports to many of them through and these are indeed called their own dimensions within it and bill having complete control over the nightmare realm means he has control over these dimensions as well
 
No... What?

He only had control over gravity falls. The portal only took mabel there because reality itself broke down.


There is nothing implying he had control over those places, and it goes against the plot.
 
You need evidence of the following things:

  • Bill being the one that turned it into a foam in between dimensions.
  • Being a foam in between dimensions=Universes being absorbed, and not just being connected with portals as we saw.
  • MAB-3L being universe-sized.
  • MAB-3L being in the Nightmare Realm
  • Restricted Bill doing all of this, even tho he wasn't restrict by GF there.
  • Bill having "complete control over the entire nightmare realm" to the point where it is relevant for us.
Explain your stuff clearly and with links to what you say, someone is supposed to add it in his profile, and "he did it in the comics lol" isn't a good elaboration.


Posting it here for those on a phone, it's a pain to navigate vsbattles on a phone afterall.
 
no mabel got there by going inside the nightmare realm with Ford and the others and then there was thing which i don't know what to call it which sent mabel to different dimensions within the nightmare realm
 
So, what do you think about Low 2-C? It seems quiet obvious enviremental destruction.
 
No, I mean:

2-C is unfounded and should be removed unless proven

Low 2-C isn't done by Bill, but by reality getting too broken due to the chaos and collapsing on itself (Enviremental destruction at it's best)

Best statement putting him at High 3-A
 
Totallynotchewbacca said:
no mabel got there by going inside the nightmare realm with Ford and the others and then there was thing which i don't know what to call it which sent mabel to different dimensions within the nightmare realm
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This proves nothing.
 
i explained why he has control over the dimensions

No, this was what bill did to gravity falls heck even with his vision thing with ford it didn't show the universe all messed up but simply bill had control over it and he reigns terror with an iron fist killing who he pleases
 
Eficiente said:
This proves nothing.
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How so he has complete control over the nightmare realm the nightmare realm houses multiple dimensions seems pretty clear cut simply "This proves nothing." Isn't gonna change anything as i have said right in this comment why it does
 
No.

It is specificly an alternate reality.


It also goes against all we know about the nightmare realm, as the other places lacked actual chaos.


It also goes against thelogic in the comic, as mab3l is a place anyone can get to in the multiverse.
 
anyway as i have referenced in a few threads couldn't restricted bill be likely 2-A or even just straight up 2-A due to again having control over the nightmare realm which is far bigger than the multiverse due to encompassing it as it is the foam inbetween all universes
 
What? Prove that.

The nightmare realm is directly shown, and stated, to be an alternate universe. It is not the foam.


And also prove that Bill can actually control it that well.
 
Totallynotchewbacca said:
How so he has complete control over the nightmare realm the nightmare realm houses multiple dimensions
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You need to prove this.

Totallynotchewbacca said:
Isn't gonna change anything as i have said right in this comment why it does
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No you didn't.
 
Do I need to explain how stupid the idea of the nightmare realm encompassing all of reality be? Bill would have litirally already won!
 
@Riscsi-viragosi

Okay i get the confusion let me clear it up

It cannot be an alternate reality due to mabel being lost within the nightmare realm within these dimenisons as evidenced by how mabels opposite was banished to the nightmare realm and was forced to reside within mab3l which is a dimension they housed SPECIFICALLY to house lost mabels

A name bill gave it doesn't mean everything is chaotic ford even mentions that bill refers to it as "the nightmare realm" which doesn't mean he puts absolutely EVERYTHING in complete and utter chaos

No mabel got to it within the nightmare realm you can't just access it out of nowhere the whole team had to go inside the nightmare realm to get to mab3l and when mabel escaped to the nightmare realm again
 
No. Again.

The nightmare realm is litiraly dimension 0. It isa dimension, a ruined one, but onenonetheless.

Mabel went outside of the nightmare dimension for the reason that was explained in the comic about alternate versions atracting each other.
 
There is no proof that mab3l is part of the nightmare realm, as that would imply all of the gravity falls reality is within a destroyed 2D reality.

Also, again, prove that bill has control over the dimension on that extent.
 
What?!?!!!? The nightmare realm IS the foam it is even stated in the journal by ford this is like the number number one thing about the nightmare realm

for the last time if the nightmare realm is under bill's control (which has been called his by bill and ford multiple times not only implying that he lives there otherwise it would also be called the henchmaniacs or it would be called THEIR dimension so it means it is under bills control since he wants to claim thses dimensions as his own) and it has mulitple dimensions as i have showed with mab3l as i have said in the abov comment
 
Totallynotchewbacca said:
i mean ford mentions it even on the nightmare realm page and how does that mean it would eb within a 2-D reality?
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The nightmare realm is a destroyed 2-D reality.
 
Ricsi-viragosi said:
The nightmare realm is a destroyed 2-D reality.
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Where did you get this

and that is a horrible example as bill should have complete control due to the repeated statements Bill's dimension or bill in weirdmaggedon saying he wanteda new one to call his own

the fact is it is the foam and while i am quite horrible with finding scans i hope someone knows and can find a scan of it but it still encompasses the mulitverseit being called dimension 0 even supports this as there IS no dimension 0 implying it was there before the first universe waiting for the universes to appear
 
Litirally read his page.


>All of reality is part of the nightmare realm

>He wants a new one.

Spot the contradiction and you get a cookie. Also, where was he stated to have this?


So... you have no proof but your questionable memory? At most you can claim it's a place where space and time doesn't exist and is absolute anarchy...

which is not aplicable to tier.
 
i never said it encompasses reality i said it encompasses the multiverse which should make it bigger which hand in hand is why i saidmy claim and it is on the nightmare realm page

even the gravity falls wiki says it in my words and how he says it was his and how took over it
 
...That is the same exact thing dude. Reality is the multiverse in gravity falls.

Scans. If you can't prove what you say, debating isn't made for you.
 
i know i went to imgur and gyfcat but i don't know what to serach for these things and how to find scans liek everyone is doing i am still trying to figure that out thats why i said go to the GF wiki as it says the samething in the book which i can read but again i don't know how to use the scan
 
ZacharyGrossman273 said:
Well
The nightmare realm being the foam between universes would make a 2-A structure

But I'm not sure if bill has total control over it
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It would imply that it is not part of space or time or reality in-general, which is either tier 1 (lelno) or unquantifiable.
 
well it has been stated to be his own which he controls and he calls it his own as well as ford i mean if i could find that nightmare realm page this would be much easier
 
If you have the book and have a phone, you can just download imgur and upload it from your phone.
 
Being connected to everywhere in an infinite universe means creating or destroying it would be 2-A, but I don't think bill's power over it is absolute
 
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