OPM AP Revision Part 3

Last thread: https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/2046162 Suggested changes for AP

Other Ratings

God: Unknow. At least High 7-C, likely much higher (empowered Homeless emperor)

Orochi:Unknow. At least High 7-C, likely much higher (Stated by Psykos to be stronger than the Monster Association's main forces. Gouketsu called him undoubtedly the strongest being on Earth. Far superior to the likes of Gouketsu. Stated to be capable of effortlessly one shotting Bakuza as if he were nothing to him. Effortlessly killed Awakened Cockroach, and was said to have defeated Metal Knight in a single attack)

Golden Sperm: At least High 7-C, likely much higher (Far stronger than Black Sperm and the S-Class. Comparable to Orochi according to Murata)


Child Emperor: At least 9-A Likely 8-A physically (comparable to Stinger ), likely 7-C with gear (Effortlessly defeated Phoenix Man a Demon Lvl monster. Currently battling against G-5 who should be comparable if not stronger than G-4.)

At least High 7-C

Overgrown Rover: Fended off Bang, Bomb, Genos, and Fubuki. And was completely unaffected by an combination attack from Bang and Bomb that is even more powerful than the one used against Elder Centipede.

Elder Centipede: Hurt Bang and Bomb and only had his shell damaged by Bang and Bomb's combination attack.

Psychos: Pinned down Bang with telekinesis.

Homeless Emperor: Knocked out Bang.

Black Sperm: Knocked out Bomb.

Gouketsu: Stated by Genos to be stronger than any previous monsters which would include Carnage Kabuto.

Carnage Kabuto (Carnage Mode): Fought Darkshine for 15 minutes before being defeated.

Bomb: Stronger than Bang.

Bang: One shot multiple dragon lvl monsters while weakened.

Superalloy Darkshine: One of the strongest physical fighters sparred against Bang.

Flashy Flash: Garou said he would've lost badly against Flash if he was in his previous state which overpowered Darkshine.

Amai Mask: Stated to be equal to Black Sperm.

Half Monster Garou: Overpowered Superalloy Darkshine.

Evil Natural Water: Took on Atomic Samurai, Child Emperor, and Pig God at the same time and pierced Amai Mask twice.

Metal Knight w/ Prep: According to Psykos he was one of the only 4 heroes capable of taking out Elder Centipede.

Likely At least High 7-C

Gale Wind (Monster Form): Kept up with and drew blood from Flash alongside Hellfire Flame.

Hellfire Flame (Monster Form): Kept up with and drew blood from Flash alongside Gale Wind.

Amped Metal Bat: Was going to one shot Human Garou.

High 7-C

Atomic Samurai: Darkshine stated he was one of the few heroes that would've defeated Half Monster Garou before he even showed off his technique. This was prior to Garou breaking his limiter against Darkshine.

Watchdog Man: Casually stomped Human Garou.

Vaccine Man: Uses the same energy ball Choze has and as a dragon lvl threat he should be stronger than Choze.

Groribas: Boros' strongest fighter which would make him superior to Melzalgard and Geryuganshoop.

Geryuganshoop: Comparable to Melzalgard.

Melzalgard: Took on 4 S-Classes at once although he never damaged any of them. Should be comparable to other dragon lvl threats.

Bakuzan: Stated by Gouketsu to be a great success something he didn't say when witnessing Choze's monster form.

Fuhrer Ugly: Fought Amai Mask who froze up at his ugliness. Should be comparable to other dragon lvl threats.

Gums: Stomped Pig God and effortlessly tore off Genos' arm. Should be comparable to other dragon lvl threats.

Carnage Kabuto (Base): Two shot Post-G4 Genos. Should be stronger than Choze and Royal Ripper

Dragon lvl threats: Should be stronger than Choze and Royal Ripper.

Beefcake: Performed a High 7-C feat and is a dragon lvl threat.

Royal Ripper: Fought and wounded Human Garou who is now considered to be a dragon lvl threat alongside Bug God.

Bug God: Fought and wounded Human Garou who is now considered to be a dragon lvl threat alongside Royal Ripper.

Suiryu: Defeated Choze.

Choze: Performed a High 7-C feat.

Human Garou: Is now a dragon lvl threat.

At least 7-C Likely/Possibly High 7-C

Post-MA Arc Genos: Stated to be capable of fighting dragon lvl threats now.

Metal Bat (Base): Stated to be capable of defeating dragon lvl monsters.

7-C

Metal Knight: Performed a 7-C feat.

G-4 Genos: Performed a 7-C feat.

Post-Training Sonic: Comparable to G-4 Genos.

Tank Top Master: Stated to be comparable to G-4 Genos.

Awakened Cockroach: Fought G-4 Genos.

Gale Wind (Human Form): Stronger than Post-Training Sonic and somewhat kept up with a casual Flashy Flash alongside Hellfire Flame.

Hellfire Flame (Human Form): Stronger than Post-Training Sonic and somewhat kept up with a casual Flashy Flash alongside Gale Wind.

Likely 7-C

Pig God: Effortlessly swallows Demon Lvl threats.

MA Arc Pri Pri Prisoner: Effortlessly stomped a monster equal to Deep Sea King.

Demonic Fan: Stomped Fubuki and the Blizzard group.

Fubuki: Reflected an attack that would've destroyed G-4 Genos.

Do-S: Fought and harmed Fubuki.

Low 7-C

Post-HoE Genos: Performed a Low 7-C feat.

Beast King: Stronger than Armored Gorilla and Mosquito Girl who were comparable to BoS Genos.

Transformed Mosquito Girl: Stomped BoS Genos.

Pre-Training Sonic: Could've defeated Pre-Rain Deep Sea King if he had a Weapon.

Zombieman: Can defeat Deep Sea King.

Deep Sea King: Can fight Post-HoE Genos in his dried up state.

Grizzly Nyah: Her weaker children can give Genos some trouble.

G-4: Fought Post-HoE Genos.

At least 8-A Possibly Low 7-C

Pre-MA Arc Pri Pri Prisoner: Can somewhat injure Dry Deep Sea King.

Iaian: Capable or defeating demon lvl threats such as Rhino Wrestler and should be somewhat comparable to Pri Pri Prisoner.

BoS Genos: Can fight Demon Lvl threats and should at least be somewhat comparable to his Post-HoE self.

Armored Gorilla: Fought against BoS Genos though he lost. Stronger than Base Mosquito Girl.

Mosquito Girl (Base): Tore off BoS Genos' arm though she would've died if the fight dragged on.

Unknow Likely 8-A Possibly Higher

170,000 Year Magicicada Nymph: Should at the very least be comparable to weak Demon lvl threats such as Base Mosquito Girl.

Surprise Attack Plum: Should at the very least be comparable to weak Demon lvl threats such as Base Mosquito Girl.

Hundred Eye Octopus: Should at the very least be comparable to weak Demon lvl threats such as Base Mosquito Girl.

Scaledon: Should at the very least be comparable to weak Demon lvl threats such as Base Mosquito Girl.

Jumping Spider: Should at the very least be comparable to weak Demon lvl threats such as Base Mosquito Girl.

At least 9-A Likely 8-A

Stinger: Fought and defeated one of Grizzly Nyah's children alongside Lightning Genji. Said children was also a Demon lvl threat that could defeat two other A-Class Heroes and give Post-HoE Genos some trouble.

Great Philosopher: Has a power lvl higher than Stinger.

Heavy Tank Fundoshi: The Top 10 A-Classes were stated to have skills close to that of an S-Class.

Magic Trick Man: The Top 10 A-Classes were stated to have skills close to that of an S-Class.

Top 10 A-Class and those comparable to them (Lightning Genji, Great Philospher, and etc.): All top 10 A-Class heroes have the potential to be S-Class. Lightning Genji defeated a weaker demon lvl threat with Stinger.


At least 9-A Possibly Higher

Golden Ball: Should be comparable to other A-Class heroes. Was able to hurt Garou after he caught him off guard in the dark.

Spring Mustachio: Comparable to Golden Ball.

Death Gatling: Is one of the top 10 A-Class hero however Garou stated that his fighting skills were much lower than that of an S-Class.


9-A

All other A-Class (Heavy Kong, Peach Terry, and etc.): Much weaker than the top 10 A-Class lost to a weaker demon lvl threat that was defeated by Stinger and Lightning Genji. However they should be able to take down weaker tiger lvl threats that are the around size of small buildings.


Unknow

Accel: Exterminated an Demon Lvl threat alongside his group.

Raider: His powers were considered to be S-Class.


Suggested changes for Speed

At least High 7-C Likely Higher

God: Unknown (Hasn't shown any speed feats)

Golden Sperm: At least Massively Hypersonic+ (Couldn't be seen by any of the S-Class heroes including Atomic Samurai when he blized a weakened Tatsumaki)

Orochi: At least High Hypersonic+ (Kept up with Half Monster Garou) Possibly higher (Is going to fight Tatsumaki later on)


At least High 7-C

Overgrown Rover: At least High Hypersonic+ (Fought against Half Monster Garou)

Elder Centipede: At least High Hypersonic+ (Fought against Genos and intercepted his blast)

Psykos: At least Massively Hypersonic+ (Pinned down Bang who was in the middle of blitzing dragon lvl monsters)

Homeless Emperor: At least High Hypersonic+ (Easily tagged Zombieman with his energy balls)

Black Sperm: At least Massively Hypersonic+ (Tagged Atomic Samurai)

Gouketsu: At least High Hypersonic+ (Defeated Genos before he was able to react)

Carnage Kabuto (Carnage Mode): At least Massively Hypersonic+ (Can keep up with Darkshine)

Bomb: At least Massively Hypersonic+ (Can keep up with Bang)

Bang: At least Massively Hypersonic+ (Can keep up with Atomic Samurai)

Superalloy Darkshine: At least Massively Hypersonic+ (Can somewhat keep up with Bang)

Flashy Flash: At least Sub-Relativistic+ (Much faster than all the other S-Classes, defeated both Hellfire Flame and Gale Wind, and can dodge a few casual attacks from Monster Garou)

Amai Mask: At least Massively Hypersonic+ (Can keep up with Black Sperm)

Half Monster Garou: At least Massively Hypersonic+ (Overwhelmed Darkshine with his speed and power)

Evil Natural Water: At least Massively Hypersonic+ (Pierced Amai Mask with its water bullet twice and also managed to tag Atomic Samurai a few times)

Metal Knight w/ Prep: Unknown


Likely At least High 7-C

Gale Wind (Monster Form): Sub-Relativistic+ ([Preformed a feat on this level])

Hellfire Flame (Monster Form): Sub-Relativistic+ (Preformed a feat on this level)

Amped Metal Bat: At least High Hypersonic+ (Eventually became faster than Human Garou)


High 7-C

Atomic Samurai: At least Massively Hypersonic+ (Casually preformed a Mach 3500 feat and can react to bullets shot at Mach 3600. Can draw his sword faster than Sonic can see)

Watchdog Man: At least High Hypersonic+ (Overwhelmed Human Garou)

Vaccine Man: Unknown Likely at least High Hypersonic+ (Should at least be comparable to early Genos)

Groribas: Unknown Likely At least High Hypersonic+ (Should be comparable to Melzalgard who can keep up with many S-Class heroes)

Geryuganshoop: Unknown Likely At least High Hypersonic+ (Should be comparable to Melzalgard) At least Relativistic Attack Speed (His attacks were stated to be near light speed)

Melzalgard: At least High Hypersonic+ (Can keep up with multiple S-Class heroes)

Bakuzan: Unknown Likely At least High Hypersonic+ (Should be comparable to early Genos)

Fuhrer Ugly: At least Massively Hypersonic+ (Amai Mask said he was fast)

Gums: At least High Hypersonic+ (Comparable to Pig God)

Carnage Kabuto (Base): At least High Hypersonic+ (Much faster than early Genos) Likely Higher

Other Dragon lvl threats: Unknown Likely at least High Hypersonic+ (Should be comparable to early Genos)

Beefcake: Unknown Likely At least High Hypersonic+ (Should be comparable to early Genos)

Royal Ripper: At least High Hypersonic+ (Kept up with Human Garou)

Bug God: At least High Hypersonic+ (Kept up with Human Garou)

Suiryu: Unknown Likely At least High Hypersonic+ (Should be comparable to early Genos)

Choze: Unknown Likely At least High Hypersonic+ (Comparable to Suiryu)

Human Garou: At least High Hypersonic+ (Comparable to Metal Bat)


At least 7-C Likely/Possibly High 7-C

Post-MA Genos: At least High Hypersonic+ (Should be faster than his early self)

Metal Bat (Base): At least High Hypersonic+ (Comparable to Genos)


7-C

Metal Knight: At least High Hypersonic+ (Comparable to Genos)

G-4 Genos: At least High Hypersonic+ (Should be faster than when he reacted to the meteor)

Post-Training Sonic: At least High Hypersonic+ (Faster than G-4 Genos, Can somewhat keep up with Hellfire Flame and Gale Wind's Human Form)

Tank Top Master: At least High Hypersonic+ (Comparable to Garou)

Awakened Cockroach: At least High Hypersonic+ (Faster than G-4 Genos)

Gale Wind (Human Form): At least High Hypersonic+ (Faster than Sonic) likely higher (Can keep up with a casual Flash)

Hellfire Flame (Human Form): At least High Hypersonic+ (Faster than Sonic) likely higher (Can keep up with a casual Flash)


Likely 7-C

Child Emperor: Likely at least High Hypersonic+ (Should comparable to Pri Pri Prisoner)

Pig God: Likely at least High Hypersonic+ (Should comparable to other S-Classes)

MA Arc Pri Pri Prisoner: At least High Hypersonic+ (Blitzed a monster equal to Deep Sea King)

Demonic Fan: Unknown

Fubuki: Likely High Hypersonic+ (Should at least be comparable to the likes of Iaian)

Do-S: Likely High Hypersonic+ (Comparable to Fubuki)


Low 7-C

Post-HoE Genos: High Hypersonic+ (Reacted to a meteor)

Beast King: Likely High Hypersonic+ (Should at least be as fast as Armored Gorilla who can keep up with a BoS Genos)

Transformed Mosquito Girl: Likely High Hypersonic+ (Blitzed BoS Genos)

Pre-Training Sonic: High Hypersonic+ (Can keep up with Deep Sea King)

Zombieman: Likely High Hypersonic+ (Can defeat Deep Sea King)

Grizzly Nyah: High Hypersonic+ (Her weaker children can keep up with Post-HoE Genos)

G-4: High Hypersonic+ (Can keep up with Post-HoE Genos)


At least 8-A Possibly Low 7-C

Pre-MA Arc Pri Pri Prisoner: Likely High Hypersonic+ (Can somewhat keep up with Pre-Rain Deep Sea King)

Iaian: Likely High Hypersonic+ (Dodged an attack from Melzalgard. Should be somewhat comparable to Pri Pri Prisoner)

BoS Genos: Likely High Hypersonic+ (Shouldn't be that much slower than his Post-HoE self)

Armored Gorilla: Likely High Hypersonic+ (Comparable to BoS Genos)

Mosquito Girl (Base): Likely High Hypersonic+ (Comparable to BoS Genos)


Unknow Likely 8-A Possibly Higher

170,000 Year Magicicada Nymph: Unknown

Surprise Attack Plum: Unknown

Hundred Eyes Octopus: At least Supersonic, Possibly High Hypersonic+ (Can tag Death Gatling)

Scaledon: Unknown

Jumping Spider: At least Supersonic (Dodged attacks from Stinger and Great Philosopher) Likely High Hypersonic+ (Tagged Child Emperor)

At least 9-A Likely 8-A

Stinger: At least Supersonic (Should be much faster than the likes of intraining Saitama) Likely High Hypersonic+ (Should be comparable to Lightning Genji who could dodge and hit one of Grizzly Nyah's children who could somewhat keep up with Post-HoE Genos)

Great Philosopher: At least Supersonic Likely High Hypersonic+ (Comparable to Stinger)

Heavy Tank Fundoshi: At least Supersonic Likely High Hypersonic+ (As a top 10 A-Class hero he should be comparable to Stinger)

Magic Trick Man: At least Supersonic Likely High Hypersonic+ (Should be comparable to Heavy Tank Fundoshi)

Top 10 A-Class Heroes and those comparable to them: At least Supersonic Likely High Hypersonic+ (Should be comparable to the likes of Heavy Tank Fundoshi)


At least 9-A Possibly Higher

Golden Ball: At least Supersonic (Should be much faster than the likes of intraining Saitama) Possibly High Hypersonic+ (Managed to hit Garou. Although he was in a close and narrow alley where his attacks could ricochet)

Spring Mustachio: At least Supersonic, Possibly High Hypersonic+ (Comparable to Golden Ball)

Death Gatling: At least Supersonic, Possibly High Hypersonic+ (Was able to keep up with Garou although he was weakened at the time from his consecutive battles)


9-A

All other A-Class heroes: At least Supersonic Possibly Higher (Should be much faster than intraining Saitama)


Unknow

Accel: Unknown

Raiden: Unknown

Hopefully we can get this wrapped up soon.

Do you think it would be worth one of us making a blog to explain the current statistics?

Probably.

Since I mentioned it before

• Vaccine Man appeared 20 kilometers northwest of the HQ in City A . As shown in Chapter 1 the area he landed in was still heavily urbanized .
• With Beefcake we get reference shots to City B and D and neither are particularly big considering his size.

Child Emperor should have more abilties add to his profiles by the way (judging from the last chapter)

He has resistance to posion(via masks),poison manipulation,barrier creation(the umbrella),Star War Lightsaber and the abilty to "nullify" robots

While he should, lets keep this thread to the general AP revision. If the stuff quoted in the OP accetable to everyone

Is there any feats we're forgetting?

Only feat that are left are outliers or belong to the top tiers

We should give tats a durability rating without her tk

One thing not already in the OP: Should we rank A-Class heroes as Building/Small Building level, scaling from tiger level monsters of that size? I think we agreed on that in the last thread

Did we? If so then yeah, the A-Class may get a small building or building statistic.

Actually I do remember. I was hesitant in accepting it since the Tiger level dude didn't technically need building level AP to do his thing. Of we stat put his size we can probably get a KE rating

>>Silverfang and by scaling Bomb should be At Least Large Town because of oneshotting Dragons.

>There's no justification for that, as mentioned earlier

Except you didn't refute it, you just stopped commenting on the topic.

Bang one shotting a Dragon just isn't super notable. He could be 3x someone who's 3x Suiryu and still be High 7-C. The scaling just doesn't back it in my view. At least Orochi has a longer and better established chain for his stuff.

The current scale for him would be: Choze -> Ugly -> Ugly's stronger state -> Bang going 100%. I don't see that as enough for a tier upgrade considering the 9x difference. With the old model it went Genos -> multiple large scale upgrades -> Base Ugly -> Ugly -> Bang 100%, which has more backing for 7-A.

But if enough people agree with you, sure. Bang and those who scale to him can get a Low 7-B rating. I just want the changes to go through at this point.

Unknow: Accel^, Raide^, Withered Sprout (Large Building level pending calc acceptence)^, Drive Knight^

At least Small Building Level: Suprise Attack Plum^, Jumping Spider^, Scaledo^, Golden Ball^, Spring Mustachio^, Great Philosopher^, Stinger^, Death Gatling^, Magic Trick Ma^, Heavy Tank Fundoshi^, Choze (Human form)^

Small Town level: Genos (early/calc ), Prisoner, Deep Sea King (Dry and Wet), Grizzly Nyah, G4, Beast King, Mosquito Girl (Probably warrents a "possibly" rating), Zombiema, Sonic (Pre-Chapter 43). Both Sonic and Genos need an additional key. Sonic is "Pre-Saitama Training | Post-Saitama Training" and Genos "Pre-G4 | Post-G4 | Post-Monster Association"

Town Level: Genos (Post-G4), Sonic (Post-Training), Blizzard, Demonic Fa,Do-S, Awakened Cockroach, Tanktop Master, Royal Ripper (could stab Garou, but considering it uses blades which focuses power in a smaller surface area it may not necessarily need as much AP to damage him), Bofoy (calc), Gale Wind (Human Form/fought against Sonic), Child Emperor, Iaia

At least Town Level, possibly Large Town level: Carnage Kabuto (base), Groribas, Geryuganshoop, Melzalgald, Metal Bat, Vaccine Ma^ (calc)

Large Town Level: Beefcake^ (calc ), Silverfang*, Suiryu^, Choze (monster)^ (calc ), Metal Bat (pumped up), Darkshine, Carnage Kabuto (Carnage Mode), Bakuzan (monster)^, Homless Emperor (AP only since he could kill himself with the energy balls), Flashy Flash*, Elder Centipede, Overgrown Rover, Bomb*, Psykos, both BS and GS*, Orochi*, Sweet Mask*, Watchdog Ma, Garou, Pig God, Atomic Samurai*, Evil Natural Water*, Gums, Fuhrer Ugly, Gale Wind* (Monster Form)

At least Large Town Level: God

If the Small City Level stuff is accepted: Bang*, possibly Bomb* (Bang's Low 7-B scaling happened when he was going 100% which he could only do one more time in his life. Bomb may not be superior to that), GS*, Orochi*, Psykos*, Homeless Emperor (AP only), Elder Centipede, Overgrown Rover

Other levels: Hundred-Eyes Octopus (At least Building level)^, 170,000 Year Magicicada Nymph (At least Building level)^, Hammerhead (Multi-City Block)^

* = People who keep the MHS+ speed as agreeded upon.

^ = People who don't scale to Genos is any notable way, so they don't get a High Hypersonic rating

Scaling reasoning = Small Building level for being scaled to a 20 meter Tiger threat that ran through a building. Small Town Level for being scaled from Genos. Town Level from being scaled to G4 Genos. Large Town level from being scaled to Choze/Suiryu. Small City Level for being scaled to Bang or due to large scaling chains.

I still think all Dragon lvls should be straight up High 7-C. Also Royal Ripper and Bug God Should probably get a Likely High 7-C for being able to fight Human Garou who became threat lvl dragon.

> I still think all Dragon lvls should be straight up High 7-C

Without proper scaling I don't think they should

> Also Royal Ripper and Bug God Should probably get a Likely High 7-C for being able to fight Human Garou who became threat lvl dragon.

I used Town level since he's using a bladed weapon and therefor might not need to have the same tier of energy to harm Garou. But sure, a likely High 7-C rating can work.

Royal Ripper and Bug God are probably around the same lvl if not even stronger than Choze. Garou had to use the Water Stream Rock Smashing Fist to fight them and Garou also hurt his hand when he punched Bug God. Garou is a dragon lvl threat at this point.

Qawsedf234 said:

Bang one shotting a Dragon just isn't super notable. He could be 3x someone who's 3x Suiryu and still be High 7-C. The scaling just doesn't back it in my view. At least Orochi has a longer and better established chain for his stuff.

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technically he one shotted 3, just one could regenerate.

If golden sperm and flash gets small city, why doesnt darkshine and flash?

What feats do either have that would scale them to that level.

Garou stomped GS and stated flash would have beaten him in his previous state. Darkshine should be the strongest S class physically.

What's the minimum height for a mountain in japan again?

Edit: Never mind, I found that it's 610 meters.

If this feat I'm calcing is Multi-City Block level or higher, I'll add it here.

The height of the mountain is 118 pixels/610 meters

The length of the crater (represented by the red line) is 41.25 pixels/213.241525 meters, for this we'll have to use radius, so 106.620762 meters

The depth of the crater (represented by the black line) is 15.32 pixels/39.8172324 meters

I'll use the spherical cap formula and halve it. This won't be totally accurate, but the result will be in the ball park of the figure.

¤Çh/6*(3a┬▓+h┬▓) where A = Radius and H = Height, we get

(39.8172324 * pi)/6*((3*106.620762 ^ 2) + (39.8172324 ^ 2))/2 = 372030.555566 meters┬│ / 372,030,555,566 cm┬│

372030555566 * 214 = 7.9614539e+13 J / 19028.3314749 tons of TNT

4358.9475 * 372030555566 = 1.6216617e+15 J / 387586.43884 tons of TNT

Town level, becomes Large Town level using vaporization

Still the same if I use this (39.8172324 * pi)/6*(3*106.620762 ^ 2 + 39.8172324 ^ 2) and this 39.8172324 * pi/6*(3*106.620762 ^ 2 + 39.8172324 ^ 2)

Using half a cylinder gets 121086.5877 meters┬│ / 121086587700 cm┬│

121086587700 * 214 = 2.591253e+13 J / 6193.24325234 tons of TNT

121086587700 * 4358.9475 = 5.2781008e+14 J / 126149.63641 tons of TNT

Town level, becomes Large Town level using vaporization

Scales to Genos after his fight with Mosquito Girl.

In these two panels, the explosion appears to be unclean, there's bits of the building all over the ground, but it rises like steam.

I could use the explosion formula. Note that the pixel measurements are different due to using a smaller image.

The mountain is 87 pixels/610 meters

The explosion is 44.42 pixels/311.450574 meters, or a radius of 155.725287 meters

Using Therefir's formula

W = R^3*((27136*P + 8649)^(1/2)/13568 - 93/13568)^2

W is yield in tons of tnt, R is radius in meters, and P is pressure of the shockwave in bars, the standard overpressure is 20 psi or 1.37895 bars.

(155.725287 ^ 3)*((27136*20 + 8649)^(1/2)/13568 - 93/13568)^2 = 8654.87035969 tons of TNT

Town level

Isn't that part of the same feat that was calculated at 7-B?

It's the initial blast, not the one that went through mountains.

Does it appear to be accurate?

Qawsedf234 said:

Bang one shotting a Dragon just isn't super notable. He could be 3x someone who's 3x Suiryu and still be High 7-C. The scaling just doesn't back it in my view. At least Orochi has a longer and better established chain for his stuff.

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Where are you getting this factor of 3 from, in the previous thread you mentioned both 3x and 7x as measurements for oneshot. You specifically mentioned, "You can be 7x Choze which would be enough for a one shot." You then insist on going back to 3x to get an answer of Bang being 9x stronger than Choze. Monster Choze << Gums/Mutated Ugly << Bang

Using 7x multiplier for each one of characters would put Bang into At Least Large Town level.

ByAsura said:

It's the initial blast, not the one that went through mountains.

Does it appear to be accurate?

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The crater looks more like a half cylinder than a spherical cap, and I don't think the surface explosion equation is applicable in this case.

It happened on the surface, but ok. I'll adjust the formula to half cylinder.

It happened on the slope of a mountain, and again the feat was calculated in 7-B, you are just using a panel where not all the destruction is shown, if we consider this an outlier then it shouldn't be used.

Ok, fine.

> Where are you getting this factor of 3 from, in the previous thread you mentioned both 3x and 7x as measurements for oneshot.

I did, because both can one shot due to a large AP difference. Can you prove that 7x is more likely than something lower like 3x? Because you're right that using 7x would get a high result, but nothing really supports a 7x figure.

I don't think we've ever used a 7× figure with any verses.

Exactly. The 7x thing was about how massive a tier range could be, not as a scaling basis. But if it helps at least Large Town level can work with some people. Assuming I just switched the Small City section to at least Large Town, is everyone okay with the revision

Choze is more or less baseline right? At least Large Town may work better than Small City in that case.

Choze is a mere 1.02x baseline high 7-C

Hold up, where does this 7X multiplier I hear about come from?

VersusJunkie54 said:

Hold up, where does this 7X multiplier I hear about come from?

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I said this in the previous thread

> If the same tier could oneshot each other, the majority of the match ups in this wiki would be stomps.

The same tier can one shot each other. Superman can one shot a baseline 4-B character for example and Krillin one shot multiple 5-B characters despite also being 5-B. You can be 7x Choze which would be enough for a one shot and still be Large Town level.

The 7x thing was to just illustrate that you can be of the same tier, but one shot someone anyways due to how much a tier can vary.

I'm not sure how to feel about a 7x multiplier that comes from no statement. If you can oneshot one guy. One shotting 6 other guys who are equal to the guy you onesohtted doesn't make you 7x stronger than any individual.