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Baldi vs Sephiroth (Grace period)

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Sephiroth: 7 (Jamesthetaker, Stillwinston, Starter Pack, Iapitus The Impaler, TacticalNuke002, Standuser081, Kyschan21)

Baldi: 1 (The Wright Way)

Inconclusive: 0

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This is...kinda interesting. Unfortunately, I'm not entirely sure how Moody Blues would be useful here. Considering SBA, the two of them are in Central Park, and I don't see why Baldi wouldn't attack him regardless of the form his stand decides to take. And, as a matter of fact, disguising himself as someone would actually leave him even more vulnerable. There might be a likelihood that he could've disguised himself as one of the other characters at Here School, but that'd only be if he actually knew those characters and how they acted, which would probably only be possible if this fight was set in Here School.

That just leaves Leone to fight Baldi mano a mano, and again, he's gonna be put at a disadvantage. The more he fights Baldi and hits him, the angrier he gets. The angrier Baldi gets, the faster he gets. And by the time Leone realizes what's happening, Baldi will already be at a very fast speed and he may not be able to fend him off after that. I'm honestly surprising myself here, and if I'm representing Leone wrong, please let me know. But, at the moment, my vote is going to Baldi with mid-difficulty.

Winner: Baldi
 
1. The starting distance is 4 kilometers, Moody Blue would has enough time to shape shift.

2. Why would he need to tranform just to attack a normal person?

3. Look at that 8-B durability.
 
1. Doesn't matter. If he's the only person in the area, Baldi's gonna go after him, regardless of form.

2. Tbh, he probably wouldn't. I'm just listing an explanation as to why it would be pointless.

3. Oh my gawd, with this stupid higher dura than AP nonsense DX

Okay, fine. Despite the fact that most things would put Baldi at an advantage, he would not be able to get past Leone's City Block durability. However, I'm going to take an absolutely weird route about this, and I'm gonna say that Baldi will likely outlast Leone due to their stamina. You see, Baldi has shown the capability to go a very long time chasing the player while smacking the ruler against his hand with no signs of fatigue. And usually, the thing that prevents Baldi from just blitzing the player once he's mad enough, which he's fully capable of doing, is through the use of one of the tools the player can use, or by being obstructed by another NPC such as Gotta Sweep. So, via his speed and stamina, I believe Leone will drop first, since he would have to defend against Baldi's ever increasing attack speed and try to land a hit in between. (And no, he isn't just going to stand there and take a ruler to the face due to being at a higher durability either. He's gonna block or dodge.) So, my vote stays with Baldi for now.
 
No, higher stamina or speed doesn't change anything.

8-B durability >>>>>>>>>> 9-B ruler.

- Baldi's increasing attack speed won't make him 8-B.

- Baldi keep smashing Leone, until he tires himself out and realized it just USELESS USELESS AND USELESS.

- A few punch from Moody Blue would knock Baldi out.
 
Jamesthetaker said:
No, higher stamina or speed doesn't change anything.
8-B durability >>>>>>>>>> 9-B ruler. Baldi's increasing attack won't make him 8-B.

Baldi keep smashing Leone, until he tires himself out and realized it just MUDA MUDA MUDA. A few punch from Moody Blue would knock Baldi out.
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Not a case of speed > AP. Not what I said at all. I'm saying that this is a stamina battle, and due to the fact that Baldi can dodge his attacks and attack himself much faster than Leone, he's gonna keep Leone on the defensive longer and he'll wear out first. Then, Baldi just kinda goes Spoonkiller on him and hits him with his ruler while he's worn out on the ground over and over again without much damage being dealt.
 
Leone get his gut ripped out by King Crimso , yet still able to use his power to rewind time back.

The point in here is Leone isn't just some random guy on the street, he literally is a trained fighters who have many years of combat experience against various Stand users. While Baldi just a teacher with angry issue.

It doesn't matter if Baldi has better stamina or speed, Leone properly gonna find a way to put him down.

Also, the most important thing is Leone 8-B durability, which Baldi have no way to bypass it.
 
Leone is an ex-cop. What can Baldi do if he disarms him using his police training? And uses his own ruler against him(like a baton)?
 
I knew there was a trick to this thread and I'm not mad about finding it.

Though yeah, if Baldi can't negate that dura, he's kinda a sitting duck.
 
Genericstickman said:
Could Moody Blues turn into something that made a loud noise in that area in a point in time to disrupt Baldi?
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Expect he doesn't have any knowledged on Baldi.

Regardless, Leone take this via combat experience.
 
Again, the more Leone hits Baldi, the faster he gets due to his anger. He'll only be able to get a couple of good hits in before Baldi goes mental and blitzes him. (Punching the teacher would be a lot worse than getting a question incorrect, imo.)
 
No, Baldi going faster won't make this a blitzes. Again, Leone is a experience fighter, he fight aganist many Stand users who much more stronger and smarter. He had survive in many dangerous situations. Baldi will lose concentration when getting angry, which make this even easier for Leone to put him down.
 
Don't get me wrong, I'm sure Leone's a very capable fighter. But within a couple of hits, Baldi will be standing toe to toe with Leone in speed, at the least. The matter of fact is this will eventually come down to experience vs. speed. And while I can't exactly make the stamina argument anymore due to the massive upgrade he got in that area, as Standuser said, he'll soon figure out punching him would be a bad idea, which will cause him to hesitate. And due to his anger, Baldi will not let up until he's down.
 
A peak human character raise speed up won't make them go any higher. Baldi still be Peak Human but much faster than normal one. As an experience fighter, i pretty sure Leone can find a way to get past his speed.
 
How? Every time he hits him, Baldi gets faster. If he attempts to distance himself, Baldi will be right on him. And Baldi would be too focused on him if he tried to cause some kind of distraction. He's a fairly experienced fighter, yes, but it's not enough to compensate for Baldi's Rage Power.
 
You kinda overestimated Baldi rage power, yes it increase Baldi speed. However, Baldi would blindly attack him without thinking when he get mad. Baldi does not know how to fight at all, which is the hugest disadvantage he could ever have against someone who can. Leone had taken a lot of fatal injury (Crimson King punch for example) and he still shrug them off, Baldi ruler isn't enough to knock him out.
 
Yeah, he really looked like he just shrugged this one off.

Plus, let's not forget the fact that only his Stand is Wall level. If Baldi manages to hit Leone himself, he is in for a world of hurt.

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I mean he had taken a lot thing that is much more than just a ruler. The only thing that could help Baldi is his rage power but Leone definitely gonna find some way to get past that.
 
And again, how will he do that when his only form of attack is to punch Baldi, which will only get him angrier? His Stand's ability is useless in this fight, which means he has to fight with his fists, and with enough hits, Baldi may even end up outspeeding Leone, forcing him to go on the defense. And his Enhanced Hearing means that he can keep up with Leone if he tries to distance himself.

I don't know about you, but things seem pretty stacked against Leone right now. I'm not saying he's not smart enough to try different strategies to get at Baldi. But I'm just not seeing how he's supposed to be able to deal enough damage to take Baldi out before succumbing to his own injuries.
 
Baldi increase speed won't make him beyond Peak Human. And that is Baldi speed at most.

Baldi's not that far into 9-B, he just one-shot a baseline 9-B at most.
 
Except, are you ready for this, speed is equalized. Going into this fight, both characters are fighting at pretty much the exact same speed. And unfortunately for Leone, Baldi's Rage Power will end up boosting his speed past that of Leone's, if slightly. Which will put him more on the defensive and give Baldi more of a chance to push forward and continue his assault.
 
You're right. It doesn't. And if I said earlier that it would be a blitz, that would be wrong. Baldi would not be infinitely faster than Leone. However, the fact is that the only line of offense that Leone has is to hit Baldi. This would, in turn, make him more upset and much faster. Leone may end up starting in the offensive, but after a couple of hits, Baldi would begin to even out the speed, and even slightly surpass him. And with his deft intelligence, he would eventually figure out that just punching Baldi would end up doing him no good, and he'd end up on the defensive. After that, he wouldn't have any affable ways of inflicting damage on Baldi without upsetting him more and making him even faster, and due to the combination of Baldi's excellent hearing and speed, he wouldn't be able to separate from Baldi fast enough to put any alternate plans into action. So, unless you can tell me how Leone is supposed to get past this with his "superior fighting skills," then it seems to be a pretty well-earned win for Baldi.
 
Baldi scales to a KE feat that's barely above baseline Wall level. As someone who has calc'd countless Wall level feats I can easily tell you any feat of actually destroying a wall is at least tens or even hundreds of time stronger than Baldi's. Even if we assume that the hole busted in the wall is only 3 feet in diameter, that would be 1,048,000 joules, which is over 57 times stronger than Baldi. Even then it takes a big leap of faith to say that Baldi is just going to keep taking hits and suffering nothing from it.

Also, "superior fighting skills" is a far bigger deal than you're making it out to be. Imagine yourself as an untrained newbie trying to fight a black belt. What are your odds of even landing a single hit there? Not to mention this is someone who is experienced in the mafia so he is more than willing to kill and knows how to do it. At some point Baldi's meter stick is going to be broken, leaving him forced to engage in hand to hand, where he'll get outclassed greatly.

Not only that but you vastly overestimate speed amp. Yes Baldi is going to get slightly faster with every time that he gets angrier. Enough to beat Leone in a race, yes, but it's not going to make him move at speeds Leone cannot keep up with. Even in the context of Baldi's game when the player collects all seven notebooks, it doesn't make a blitz-worthy difference, just too fast to run away from.
 
I always found it ironic that Leone was the most jacked member of his team but his stand wasn't really a combat stand.

Anyway I actually kinda see Leone taking this one. Leone is wayyy more skilled than Baldi. Baldi is a nutjob teacher while Leone is an ex cop and mafia man. Can't Moody Blues fight Baldi directly too? I know its not really a combat applicable stand but it did do stuff during the Man in the Mirror fight, so its a 2 on 1 off the bat wouldn't it?
 
After AR's rather logical assumptions on all of his points, I respectfully retract my vote for Baldi and switch it to Leone. To be fair, though, I was attempting to be logical, and I was attempting to remain within the borders of what Baldi could be capable of. And why I said Baldi could take so many hits, well, it's because I figured Baldi and Leone to be about even in power, a bad habit around here that I really need to break considering how much of a difference can take place within even one tier. However, for those who are calling stomp...no.

My previous points, while not as decisive, still remain and are valid. While Baldi would probably not survive nearly as many hits as I said, he would be able to fight a fair fight and at least somewhat match Leone. Leone isn't gonna punch him once and deal him in. It will take a couple of hits. While some may say borderline stomp, this is definitely not a flat-out stomp.
 
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