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Natsu fights the dragon balls, Natsu Dragneel vs Dragoniak

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Natsu: 0

Dragoniak: 7

Speed unequal (lowballed mach 1400 vs casual mach 1800)

Takes place in the Snake's Den (Several Dozen's wide room in a cave, rocks strong enough to not be oblitarated by 7-C attacks)

Drag


Natsu 2018


Reasonings (so the ones too lazy to go through the thread can just come here):

-Drag: Wins by teleporting away from attacks, his shield tanking the attacks due to AP advantage and using danmaku to overwhelm Natsu, Gravity Manip

Natsu: Can outlast, a few clear hits kill the dragon due to dragon slayer sheningans, has experience with the stuff the dragon uses, albeit not exactly like this.
 
I mean Natsu is greater than 7 Kilotons while this Dragon is 20, might be a bit of a disadvantage for Natsu, however he has Dragon Slayer Magic, and can Eat Dragoniaks Fire, Now the Lightning, Wind and Light Projectiles might be difficult, Natsu has dodged point blank lightning before, so he may be fine here, however that Barrier Might also be a pain, Natsu has resisted Low 7-B+ Gravity before, so this shouldn't be to much of a problem for him, and I think Dragoniak won't expect Natsu to have Fire Absorbtion and Dragon Slayer Advantage, which in the end would be his crux, I think just a few good shots from Natsu and Dragoniak is done, now to be fair, this Fight Ain't gonna be easy, but Natsu could likely perservere in the end

Natsu Takes it, high Difficulty
 
I'll say a few things.

It doesn't use its fire much of at all. It used it once, but much prefers going danmaku or gravity.

You can't tier gravity. You can only compare lifting strenght in cases like this. So what lifting strenght did the gravity user have? Or he's gravity?

The dragon really doesn't tank, it tends to prefer to teleport and let its balls do the fighting. Plus, once it sees fire is uneffective it won't use it again, it's smarter than normal humans by the thousends.
 
DragonEmperor23 said:
isn't gravity tiered by the tier? Like someone that has 5-B Gravity has heavier abilities than someone with 7-A Gravity.
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No.

Much like telekinesis, to hold someone down you need comparable lifting strenght.

Which is why a tier 5 gravity manip won't work on any ruby character unless it has the ability to restrain class K characters.
 
I will have to give my vote to dragoniak. It very smart when it comes to fighting, it's able to teleport above it's enemies when it's in danger and attack them from above. Also you can't get close to it unless you destroy the lightning/light balls, even if you destroy them it still protected by a force field and is hard to destroy it. It rarely uses its fire breath, it only used it when it had nothing else to us.

So i give my vote to dragoniak for mid-diff-

Edit: Also it uses gravity manipulation to supress it's enemies to the ground, and attack them. Natsu has no chance of winning against this enemy.
 
Votes counted.

You can get past its balls though. Hardly unless you can either tank them or can speedblitz them, but you cab.

And it can recreate them.
 
DragonEmperor23 said:
Oh okay then. Natsu has resisted Class G gravity manip, and Dragoniak's is class K which is two tiers lower.
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Wait. Wasn't that another key?

If not, he should get upgraded, because that does scale (unless he litiraly resisted the magic, and not just overpowered it, in which case your logic is sound).
 
BlueNote's Gravity is decided by Tier, the stronger the magic, the stronger the Gravity, that's how his magic works, now this might he different, but this Natsu managed to Jump High in the Air fast, with Gravity that was sinking the earth itself, so yeah, As for the Danmaku, I'm sure that'll suck for Natsu, but he has done well against Danmaku begore, So I think he'll eventually get close, land a few Dragon Slayer hits, and take the win
 
both are nearly same, but natsu have dsm advantage, also i dont know drag gravity feat, maybe it strong enough to pin-down natsu? or not? also natsu is also train by dragon and ft dragon are far more intellegent then human, since natsu train with igneel he sure knows dragons weak points, also natsu have experince against wind(erigor), lighting(laxus), light(sting) manipulation.and his dragon sense.

he take it mid-hard difficulty
 
DemonGodMitchAubin said:
BlueNote's Gravity is decided by Tier, the stronger the magic, the stronger the Gravity, that's how his magic works, now this might he different, but this Natsu managed to Jump High in the Air fast, with Gravity that was sinking the earth itself, so yeah, As for the Danmaku, I'm sure that'll suck for Natsu, but he has done well against Danmaku begore, So I think he'll eventually get close, land a few Dragon Slayer hits, and take the wi
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Yeah, but that doesn't mean much.

It gets stronger with his AP, but iit still depends on lifting strenght whenever it affects others or not.


But from how you describe it, he should scale to it.
 
I'll say how I see the battle going, giving a win for both sides:


First, Natsu' win:

He manages to dodge the attacks, or get hit a few times, until either the dragon runs out of mana or he fires his attacks, in which case the barrier keeps protecting until it runs out of mana.


Drag's win:

It teleports away from atttacks and danmaku's . Nothing really complicated about it.
 
9TailAcno said:
both are nearly same, but natsu have dsm advantage, also i dont know drag gravity feat, maybe it strong enough to pin-down natsu? or not? also natsu is also train by dragon and ft dragon are far more intellegent then human, since natsu train with igneel he sure knows dragons weak points, also natsu have experince against wind(erigor), lighting(laxus), light(sting) manipulation.and his dragon sense.
he take it mid-hard difficulty
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This dragon doesn't share does weaknesses.
 
Not to mention, Natsu's magic will be super effective due to fighting a dragon. He can outlast it since the dragon doesn't have a lot of stamina feats compared to his own.
 
I'm gonna stick with Natsu, I don't thing the Danmaku would be able to put Natsu Down for Good, and while it's gonna be a pain for Natsu to get a hit, I can see him outlasting this Dragon, and then Taking him down
 
The dragon should be able to fight for a dozen menutes with how its comparable to han, just withput the stamina regen.


That said, I doubt it will ever get to outlasting territories. It scales to 20 kilotons, so by the time it runs out of stamina it could have easily killed Natsu.

And much like the dragon, Natsu can kill it in a few hits as well.
 
It also has a 1.5 speed advantage, not that that really changes everything or anything.
 
Natsu won't be able to get close to the dragon unless he destroys those lightning/light orbs in which is very difficult. Also the dragon can just teleport behind natsu and use his most powerful attack on natsu.

Also the gravity magic will be a real challange to natsu, it will slower his speed and he will just become a easy target for the dragon's attacks.
 
Most of Natsu's attacks are AOE, destroying the orbs isn't hard and we already explained that the gravity magic won't effect him.
 
How does gravity translate to Lifting strength? Characters like Fuji and Bluenote for example, specialize specifically in gravity magic, being their main way of dealing damage. As far as I know lifting strength =/= AP
 
Captain Torch said:
How does gravity translate to Lifting strength? Characters like Fuji and Bluenote for example, specialize specifically in gravity magic, being their main way of dealing damage. As far as I know lifting strength =/= AP
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It depends on how its used, but in this case, it increases your weight until you can't move, which completly relies on how much you can lift.
 
Captain Torch said:
How does gravity translate to Lifting strength? Characters like Fuji and Bluenote for example, specialize specifically in gravity magic, being their main way of dealing damage. As far as I know lifting strength =/= AP
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You realize that peoples lifting strenght scale to one of fujitora's gravity feats, yea?

Or that bluenote has lifting strenght with magic.
 
Everybody who has calss T lifting strenght, including big mom.

That said, wasn't it low 7-B natsu who had that fight?
 
Well, that would need a crt.

Could someone give me the chapter it happened? I would have a look.
 
Hmm, Natsu managed to resist Bluenote's casual gravity attack back in Tenrou, which resulted in 578 tons of TnT (8-A)

Post 2nd skip Natsu managed to walk through Bluenote's gravity like nothing and being able to stomp him, and Bluenote is Low 7-B(~1.3 megatons)

How can one translate it into Lifting strength though?
 
That depends.

Does the gravity increase things weight, or is it simply like TK?

In the first case, it just means that the amount it increases natsu's gravity by is not that strong, which does not help here.
 
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