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Medaka Kurokami vs Ashen

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A lovely bird once twittert me something in my ear: "I promise this is not a stomp~" (He didnt but still...) I will totally snitch on him if its happens to be a stomp~.

Medaka Kurokami vs Ashe.

Ihiko arc for Medaka and Perennial Ashen.

SBA and yada yada. Oh and 2 weeks prep for Ashen.

Edit: So i just realised that SBA dosnt include Speed being equalized. This match was done with the intention of being speed equal, so i hope that this dosnt seem like spite. (yada yada you change the match mid air to let Ashleen win yada yada. No)

Speed is equal.
 
Medaka is gonna try to speed blitz Ashen with AF, but it won't work due to Perenial status. Ashen pops a cap in her ass and eliminates all possible futures where she survives, so any of her revival methods are useless. Even if she somehow returns, BFR it is

Ashen takes it mid dif
 
How does perennial status stop her moving at infinite speed, and as such being able to do everything before ashen?
 
Because she would only try to blitz and take him out in character, but the kill would fail and she gets a golden bullet in the heart
 
With that much prep time she might be able to kill God Mode Medaka tbh
 
Ashen would be literally immobile, as she becomes infinite speed. Can't really hit something infinitely faster than you with a bullet.
 
Could Medaka erase the event of him shooting her with the bullet to revive? Or does he have a way to stop that?
 
i mean the bullet kills all possible futures before it even lands. literally the only possible outcome from when the Bullet is fired is her death

Put it like this, When Medaka goes for the AF blitz, she rushes them with a barage of attacks and then moves past them. When she moves past them, Ashen gets that moment to fire and kill
 
Blahblah9755 said:
Could Medaka erase the event of him shooting her with the bullet to revive? Or does he have a way to stop that?
For one, Ashen is a she.

No, because even that future is cancelled as soon as the bullet is used
 
If medaka can perceive and move in infinite speed I don't think he's getting a chance to pull out a gun at all. She has literally forever.
 
Also, I'm pretty sure that the type 5 negation is more a weakness of the gods than anything else, if it applies to literally any mortal.
 
Wokistan said:
If medaka can perceive and move in infinite speed I don't think he's getting a chance to pull out a gun at all. She has literally forever.
She doesnt percieve, she just removes the time her actions take
 
Perception is an action, and to do anything that fast you'd have to be able to somewhat perceive that. Even then, she should be able to notice some sketchy hand movement then infinite speed steal the gun and all. Also, Type 5 doesn't stop Ashen from being crippled by Medaka's assault, as she's far superior physically. SHe may not be dead, but she'd be incapped.
 
Wokistan said:
Also, I'm pretty sure that the type 5 negation is more a weakness of the gods than anything else, if it applies to literally any mortal.
No. Mortals in the verae give Lady Death access to all the beings in any given realm, so it is an ability of the mortals
 
Oh boy the endless possibilities this fight gonne give people is aids. Btw how does Ashen type 8 immortality work ?
 
That sounds more specific to Lady Death, if death in verse is an actual being. Don't think that verse equalization involves bring over stuff like that.
 
I also don't think that you really need that weakness on the file, as SBA states strongest versions. This means Ashen would show up with her bullets in working order, rather than taking forever to make them.
 
I thought if preparation battles are made. Both characters are suppose to apply not just one. Isn't that somewhere in wiki rules?
 
No, that's not a rule. Regular stomp rules still apply with prep matches though, and uneven prep may be spite. I don't think it is here though.
 
Wokistan said:
Perception is an action, and to do anything that fast you'd have to be able to somewhat perceive that. Even then, she should be able to notice some sketchy hand movement then infinite speed steal the gun and all. Also, Type 5 doesn't stop Ashen from being crippled by Medaka's assault, as she's far superior physically. SHe may not be dead, but she'd be incapped.
Yes, but I mean this is specific to All Fiction. Her perception is not hightened from its use at all, and she can still be blitzed by FTL Iihiko even with that ability. While she might be able to, that is not in character for her to do. Sure, she could be malled, but that doesn't mean she can't fight. Fetch Mirror still works anyway

Lady Death is a conceptual being. She is the embodiment. As long as there is a concept of Death, she can reach the beings within an area. It was actually a specific story line about The Trickster attempting to craft a world where only immortals exist so that death could not reach him, however, as soon as the first God summoned a mortal to him, Death (both the entity and the concept) were given access to the house and could be killed with the proper weaponry (harpoons that negate 4 immortality, and that had enough AP to finish them off)
 
Wokistan said:
I also don't think that you really need that weakness on the file, as SBA states strongest versions. This means Ashen would show up with her bullets in working order, rather than taking forever to make them.
its not that the bullets don't work, they just don't have their nemesis established to always strike them. Its only when the bullets are made via a specific ritual with a specific target's name in mind that they end up destroying all futures where the target survives
 
Gargoyle One said:
Wasn't Ashen possibly Low 2C with prep a minute ago? What happened?
yeah, i just noticed that. Why was it removed? She was Low 2-C via prep due to her being able to cause a chain reaction to destroy a universe
 
Here's my question, looked up the outdated page on my phone

Why is eating the apple Low 2C?

For example, Destroying a building (In this case universe) is 8C, but a specifically planted bomb that destroys a building is 9A
 
I'll answer the other stuff in a bit, but generally chain reaction stuff isn't allowed for a tier, I'm pretty sure. That's what got planet level bleach rejected, I believe.
 
Within a House of Many Doors, The Orchard of The House contains many apples, each one a universe. By reaching this orchard, you are given access to the entire infinite multiverse. By choosing an apple, you can travel to any given universe. However, if you choose to eat one of the Apples, the given universe is destroyed and you become a Perennial, even more immortal than the Gods themselves. Its not the eating of the apples that is Low 2-C, its being able to reach The Orchard and teaming up with the protagonist to reach the Orchard and causing the chain reaction to destroy a universe that makes it Low 2-C via prep

There is also an option for the protagonist (along with Judith Grimalkin) to destroy the entire multiverse if they want to, via burning the orchard down
 
Wokistan said:
I'll answer the other stuff in a bit, but generally chain reaction stuff isn't allowed for a tier, I'm pretty sure. That's what got planet level bleach rejected, I believe.
The Bleach thing was based on his status being used to scale to raw DC, this is based on Prep time and setting up a senerio to cause the destruction of a Universe
 
Ant would be the one to ask, as he was the one to delete it. Probably due to the Orchard being verse specific and a chain reaction, making it a bit misleading to insinuate that the person actually wields tier 2 power at some point rather than the universe just being destroyed as a consequence of their action.
 
Its not tier 2 power, its the ability to set up an event that would cause Low 2-C destruction. I specifically said it was via prep due to it not being raw DC, but a consequence of their actions
 
Actually, Parallax has a low 2-C for similar reasons, now that I think about it. I'd bring it up with Ant. Will respond to your points in a bit.
 
Iapitus The Impaler said:
Yes, but I mean this is specific to All Fiction. Her perception is not hightened from its use at all, and she can still be blitzed by FTL Iihiko even with that ability. While she might be able to, that is not in character for her to do. Sure, she could be malled, but that doesn't mean she can't fight. Fetch Mirror still works anyway
Wait, its OOC for her to notice someone pulling a gun on her and take that away at infinite speed? Isn't Iihiko not really the best example anyways, due to how he can't really be categorized for the whole scaling to Ajimu thing?

As for the strike, remember that Ashen has 9-C durability while Medaka here is 8-A. That is more than enough to completely splatter the body. While they may technically still be alive, I don't see how a spray of gore/giblets can really operate a gun. How does the fetch mirror work?
 
It's in character for her to notice she has stuff like that before she pulls it, take it away, then give a lecture on how it's bad to bring guns around with you.
 
Wokistan said:
Actually, Parallax has a low 2-C for similar reasons, now that I think about it. I'd bring it up with Ant. Will respond to your points in a bit.
Think that's just an old profile
 
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