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Tsumugi Shirogane Downgrade

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I'm on mobile so this'll be quick.

I have two problems with Tsumugi's profile.

High Multiversal+
First off, no CRT was made. It was legit 2 people on a message wall for a jump in QUITE A FEW TIERS.

Second, Tsumugi isn't High 2-A.... It's legit like saying humans are High 2-A for viewing works of fiction as fiction. It's a TV Show, she views them as fiction because she fabricated literally everything about them, their entire personalities are fictional, not the characters themselves.

Plus it would make literally every human High 2-A in the DR verse and that's quite the assumption.

Infinite Speed
Atua doesn't exist.

Angie's literally the only source of info on Atua on considering every piece of her backstory, persknality, and identity are all faked it's hard to take anything that leaves her mouth as truth

Conclusion
Downgrade Tsumugi to what she was before.
 
The hell? The profile do exists?

Regarding the issue, who puts her at High 2-A? While I understands about the "IFs" possibilities, Is there any indication that Tsumugi did creates the DRverse?
 
I can agree with the tier downgrade, I also think the powers and abilities section can stay as it is but if there are problems then someone should revise them a little bit.

The hell? The profile do exists?
-Homu Sweet Homu

Well, yeah and then it was changed to High 2-A and he wants to change it back again, and I can see a bit why.
 
While I do acknowledge about the DRverse consists of Infinite possibilities, High 2-A is just downrighr wrong.

Actually, Gundam said he can produced a Sun that burns all the Multiverse, so it doesn't as far fetched as it sounds.
 
Pretty sure no one made a CRT and just straight up changes the tier.

That is why we have no idea about it.
-Homu Sweet Homu

Aww, how despairing, for just a second, I thought it was a special moment.
 
Serirously, a lot of things that happens to DR pages make me irritate. But I'm busy for now and don't have time to say it.

Anyway, I think that High 2-A Tsumugi can stay at Joke Battle Wiki. If someone want, we can copy her to that.
 
I agree with this. There are issues I have with somethings. But that will come at a later date.
 
Okay,this is an explanation about why Tsumugi is an high 2-A or lower (2-A at best) from Muh.

"I played and watched the games several times that you won't even be able to count them.

I can assure you that this is not wank. Tsumugi herself stated that she controlled all the plotline and series of not only DRV3, but also the previous two games (DR:THH and DR2 with its variants).

She herself stated that Danganronpa as a whole contains infinite dimensions, and that she can 'cosplay' the whole dimension that she was in, and she also stated that she created the entire Danganronpa multiverse. (Not the TV show. She just cooperated with some people to create this Killing Game as entertainment, but she heavily implied several times that she was the one that created Danganronpa series, and she viewed it all as mere fiction).

Also, look at the last page of the imgur page that i have posted here in this thread. She stated that the whole multiverse is like a 'Klein bottle with infinite dimensions where the inside and outside are filled with uncertainity' to her, and that if it broke, there is no way that it would be prepared, and she said that to a normal human no less.

This proves that she is 2-A."

I'm myself dunno about this tbh,how the other think,if this outlier tell me.
 
Okay....what?

It's clear that she "created" the DanganRonpa v3 world via manipulating the character's memories, taking them to another location and holding the killing game. She implanted false memories into everyone. And no. Danganronpa was considered a fictional series in that world just like ours. So in all actuality those events never even happened in real like.

How does her being the creator of Danganronpa make sense when she herself is merely the 53rd Junko. There were multiple Junko's before her. She is not the only one. Not to mention we see that the characters question whether all she said was either true or not, granting an open ended ending. So we don't even know what the truth of the matter is.

No matter how you cut it, 2-A or High 2-A Tsumugi is wank.
 
Muhammedmco said:
She cosplayed as Junk, nothing more nothing less.
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>Cosplayed as Junko

>Literally called herself Junko the 53rd

>This is literally the 53rd DanganRonpa

>It's never stated whether she participated in the other DanganRonpa's, with the only one with a slight implication being the one Ryutaro was in.
 
"If she herself wasn't the creator of the series, then how did she break the fourth wall several times? How did she know that Danganronpa is composed of infinite dimensions? And more importantly, what is explained in the link i brought for you. She said to a normal human that it would be no way to fix the infinite IFs (Infinite Dimensions) once it's destroyed, which heavily implies that she created it.

Also, who said this is Dragonmasterxyz, who, if memory serves, doesn't know anything about Danganronpa.

You know, i'm sick of this. Let them do what they want. It's Their wiki after all (As they say)."
 
She herself stated that all of Danganronpa was mere fiction, and they were Infinite Dimensions, and she was the one that said that. She literally stated that she can not only cosplay characters, but the whole multiverse, and that's in the last class trial. She also stated that she was the one that created all of those characters, and that she called herself the 53rd Junko just as a name, just because she is obssessed with Junko, nothing more nothing less. She also stated to a mere human that it would be impossible to fix the infinite IFs (Infinite Dimensions) of Danganronpa should it get destroyed, which heavily implies that she did create the Danganronpa multiverse.
 
"If she herself wasn't the creator of the series, then how did she break the fourth wall several times?"

So every person who breaks the fourth wall the creator of the verse? Quick answer, no.

"How did she know that Danganronpa is composed of infinite dimensions?"

God forbid she's just knowledgeable of the verse as the 53rd Junko Enoshima.

"And more importantly, what is explained in the link i brought for you. She said to a normal human that it would be no way to fix the infinite IFs (Infinite Dimensions) once it's destroyed, which heavily implies that she created it."

No it doesn't. All that shows is that if someone destroyed all the infinite worlds, then there's nothing anyone can do about it.

"Also, who said this is Dragonmasterxyz, who, if memory serves, doesn't know anything about Danganronpa."

Shows how much you know about me. If you actually bothered to look a my profile, you'd see Danganronpa right there on my supported verses section. Due research before you shit talk. If I knew nothing about Danganronpa, how am I discussing v3 and the whole Junko situation with you? Think about what you say before you say it.

"You know, i'm sick of this. Let them do what they want. It's Their wiki after all (As they say)."

Good thing to know you prefer to just throw a tantrum over actually discussing anything. It's our wiki, but that doesn't change anything. The burden of proof is on you to prove your case.
 
Muhammedmco said:
She herself stated that all of Danganronpa was mere fiction, and they were Infinite Dimensions, and she was the one that said that. She literally stated that she can not only cosplay characters, but the whole multiverse, and that's in the last class trial. She also stated that she was the one that created all of those characters, and that she called herself the 53rd Junko just as a name, just because she is obssessed with Junko, nothing more nothing less. She also stated to a mere human that it would be impossible to fix the infinite IFs (Infinite Dimensions) of Danganronpa should it get destroyed, which heavily implies that she did create the Danganronpa multiverse.
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You actually need to see this too,Dragon.
 
"She herself stated that all of Danganronpa was mere fiction, and they were Infinite Dimensions, and she was the one that said that."

Yeah...because Danganronpa is a fictional series. Doesn't make her the creator.

"She literally stated that she can not only cosplay characters, but the whole multiverse, and that's in the last class trial"

Cosplay the multiverse. In this case implying she is cosplaying any person she wishes. Also I would like this quote as I don't remember this from the last trial. Not to mention none of this equal creator of the verse.

"She also stated that she was the one that created all of those characters, and that she called herself the 53rd Junko just as a name, just because she is obssessed with Junko, nothing more nothing less."

And you skim over how she created these characters. What did she do? Erased and replace memories. That's how she created the v3 cast. So what, the nearly 52 other Junko's are what then? It is only really confirmed that at most Tsumugi was involved with 2 killing games. The 52nd and the 53rd.

"She also stated to a mere human that it would be impossible to fix the infinite IFs (Infinite Dimensions) of Danganronpa should it get destroyed, which heavily implies that she did create the Danganronpa multiverse."

Already addressed this in my previous comment.
 
Also look to other side,tier 9 is still good since Tsumugi get an lot's of variety match,if she's High 2-A she will get stomped to the other High 2-A character,and who want to make High 2-A match? It will be boring af.
 
Okay. I will agree with this one, but at least put Varies with cosplaying (She can copy the powers and abilities of any character, including those outside Danganronpa).
 
Where did this 2-A stuff even come from? You did play V3, right? It's literally just a reality show. And also, there's no evidence that Tsumugi can copy the powers of those she cosplays, but I guess that part can stay?
 
There is an evidence that Tsumugi can copy the powers of those she cosplays, as she induced despair into Shuichi, Himiko and Maki when she cosplayed as Junko.
 
That's really only evidence of her having Empathetic Manip, unless she's been shown using the powers and skills of other people she's cosplayed as. She could get power bestowal through Flashback Lights, though.
 
Not to mention that there are various items in the game with supernatural abilities which each character in the game can use several of this, but it actually depends on whether they like or love them or not.
 
I don't remember that ever being explicitly stated. And those are only cosplays, there's no evidence that she can copy their powers through cosplay. Calling her a human version of Ditto is just nlf, plain and simple.
 
She can copy their powers and abilities. If she can copy Junko's Empathic Manipulation, then she can copy others powers and abilities.

I'm updating her profile based on the info that i got and seen.
 
Also, she should have all of Danganronpa's characters powers and abilities as well.

Her rating also should be At least 9-B, Varies with Cosplaying.
 
That's baseless assumption. If she's only been able to use Empathetic Manip and nothing else, there's no evidence that she can copy anything. This is blatant NLF.
 
No, it isn't.

She just used Junko's Empathic Manipulation when she was cosplaying with her. She stated that she can mimic everything in the character, including their voices, personalities, powers and abilities. That's not baseless assumption. She herself stated so.
 
I still say it's iffy that she can copy the abilities of the other DR characters without proof of it. I understand the reasoning, but only having one example that may or may not be an example of her copying someone's ability isn't a very solid foundation.
 
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