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Ragna vs Hyde

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Two main characters in Arc System Works fighting games duke it out to see who has the more edge is the better sword wielding main protagonist. Speed is equalized, 7-C versions are used, and it takes place in Rachel's palace cause Ragna likes to wreck her place since he wants to get back at her. OvO

Ragna:

Hyde:

Inconclusive: 7


Central Fiction Ragna
Hyde Kido (BlazBlue Cross Tag Battle, Character Select Artwork)
 
It's a stomp anyway.

Non-existent=Ragna can't physically hit or effect him at all.
 
Gargoyle One said:
Theglassman12 said:
Ever said that the 7-C tiers are staying.
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They're becoming slow 7C
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but there's no such thing as slow 7-Cs. Every 7-C has been really fast compared to normal beings. OvO
 
He can inflict conceptual soul damage since he has an azure grimoire.
 
<Conceptual

When in the ever loving daylights has it ever been conceptual?
 
that's what's stated for anyone that has an azure grimoire.
 
The term itself is word salad but the thing can deal damage to the soul that not even Phenomena Intervention can undo.
 
I mean this non-existent for Hyde just makes him intangible to maybe non-corporeal. If Ragna can inflict soul damage to the point that a reality warping ability that determines what exists and don't exists couldn't change it, then he can potentially do the same thing to a nonexistent being.
 
So they can both affect eachother

It kinda comes down to his is the more skilled of the two, by which I need time to think on.
 
I mean, if you want a sort of rundown on what Ragna has faced, he has been trained by one of the six heroes Jubei; has fought against Jin, who's a high ranked member of the NOL, a sort of government in the BB universe; and fought against Hakumen, who's not only one of the six heroes, but is basically an amped up Jin.
 
Hyde rends apart ones existence.

Ragna rends aparts ones soul.

Both have equal projectile options.

It depends on who gets the "killing blow" first. It's pretty 50/50 to me. So inconclusive.
 
I'm leaning a bit into Ragna's favor here as I do believe that he is superior skill wise, but Glass already covered that.

Question though, would it erase Ragna's blade?
 
Skill wise, Hyde is weaker, however it doesn't change much considering the fact that Hyde is no slouch either, and his body moves on its own anyway.

If it is a living thing...yes.
 
About the latter.

The blade is literally his power, not just a random blade, and he has no resistance.

I don't see why the blade wouldn't be erased in the clash
 
Until my reasoning gets debunked I'll vote Hyde via erasing the blade from existence.

BTW Dragon WHERE THE HELL IS MY ORIE PROFILE
 
@Gargoyle

The blade isn't his power, it's just a giant sword that he can amplify with the azure grimoire.
 
Gargoyle One said:
About the latter.
The blade is literally his power, not just a random blade, and he has no resistance.

I don't see why the blade wouldn't be erased in the clash
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Ragna's main power is the BlazBlue, the power in his arm. His sword is just a tool. He doesn't need it to use the power of the azure. After all, he can summon parts of the black beast without it (like his arm, that he used to drag terumi out of susanoo)
 
I would honestly give it to Hyde due to the massive speed and reaction advantage, and Type 5 Immortality. Tier 7-C Ragna doesn't have any way to bypass Immortality besides his Soul damage, and even then, Hyde's nonexistant physiology bypasses that since he doesn't technically exist on a physical plane spirit-wise. He can't really be killed by traditional means, meaning you have to have a form of existance erasure to kill him since In-Births are an Immortal-like race. Hyde has an immense speed advantage over Ragna too. Hyde's Light speed feat trumps any and everything that Ragna had ever done until he hit Tier 2-C since his speed feats in that tier likely don't even matter. All in all, Hyde is much faster than Ragna in almost every way, and even has instinctive reactions to help him dodge attacks, and is immortal, with Ragna not really having a way to truly kill him in the end. I give my Vote to Hyde due to his speed advantage, Immortality, and Existance Erasure. Yes, I know mentioning the speed advantage is BS since speed is equalized, but Speed applies to multiple things in a battle such as Attack speed, Reactions, and Counterattacking.
 
Speed is equalized, and his immortality doesn't help him against soul hax that can't be undone by reality warping that can determine what exists or not. It still doesn't help when everything about their speed is equalized. Unless Hyde has an ability that amplifies his speed, his speed is the same as Ragna's.
 
Wew,why i forget this one,thanks my friend for reminding me again!

After reading this i gonna say inconclusive FRA.
 
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