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If he normally has turned them off he has to turn them on. Unless he has prep time he can not do so before the fight starts, as that would be preperation for the battle.PaChi2 said:Minor addition: why dont we assume Ainz starts with the Despair Auras active? I know he doesnt have them activated normally, but its because he can turn them off and doesnt want to kill people at random as that's inconvenient for him. I dont see any reason to assume he doesnt start with basic abilities like that already activated.
One thing is buffing himself and another thing is starting with his basic battle skills activated.Mand21 said:Should he then also start with buffs like the ones he used against Shalltear, or is that prep time?
Completely agree. This ability works on the NPC and common people, so it's major problem in everyday life. But there no NPC or friendly unit in upcoming battle. All in all there no reason to NOT use this abillity as actived from beginning, it's only purpose to deactivate it basically nonexistent in the first place.PaChi2 said:I mean. He purposefully turns the off to interact with people. In a vsthread he is not supposed to be in a diplomatic situation, so him having them active is common sense as they can even be activated by his own emotions.
But it's pretty much irrelevant in battle aspect.Yomi Schwarz said:Dropping some info.
Ainz is not as Smart as you may think.
Yes he is inhuman and doesn't feel emotion but he is not a genius.
The only reason people think he is a genius is because the people around him somehow believe and suck up to him.
Yomi knows Overlord way better than me, i trust her judgment, therefore...I completely agree with her.Yomi Schwarz said:Simple Because Its not
Nothing says its conceptual,Nothing says its abstract. Idk why you guys are making a spell that was only used once with no more prior details except a general description super stretched out and blowed out of proportions.
To say its conceptual would mean it can kill beings faaaar above ainz's own league like Gilgamesh and Yhwach,Heck thats basically saying Grasp Heart can scratch a top tiered conceptual being like Multi Eternity lmao xD
Your not getting the point of Grasp Heart.
it's classified as "Instant Death",Yes it is im not trying to deny that.
But How does it virtually induce instant death?
By Simulating a crushed heart.
It's literally that simple
Absolutely nowhere does it say that "Instant Death" spells in overlord are conceptual level
Burden of proof is on you
You need a blatant statement that is not an assumptio to prove something this heavy.
AlrightPaChi2 said:Ok.
Imma ask everyone to drop the grasp heart stuff, and dont derail this any further.
That's not the main focus of this thread. Simple as that. We are here to discuss how we assume Ainz will react in a battle situation against something he has 0 knowledge about supposing that he wont just flee to Nazarick because there is no Nazarick to begin with.
I think you need to choose better wording.William Shrekspire said:GH works in abstract manner, yes. A lot of proofs within the novel text, confirming this thesis.
But it's not conceptual.
I'll accept that definition open heartedly with no rejection if and only if i see GH being blatantly stated in the novels as abstract levels and/or GH hurting something that is abstract in nature.William Shrekspire said:"The method varies, however; some users may halt vital biological processes or attack the soul directly. Others affect their target on a more abstract level, simply causing them to die for no discernible reaso..."