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Tabuu vs Goku

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"Reality Warping, Spatial Manipulation, Universe Creaion and Embodiment"

How does the stuff I mentioned above work?

And who has the AP advanatage? I've heard that Smash Bros god Tiers are pretty high itno Low 2-C.
 
I think Goku barely takes the advantage here by a slight margin.

Tabuu and Goku are roughly even in terms of how physically trying they are, but Goku has not only far better showings of pure CQC skill but also has the advantage with Ki attacks and pure range.

Tabuu's RW has never shown to be applicable and if so it's not in character for it to really use it.

TLDR Goku via superior skill, ranged, instinctive reaction and being naturally bloodlusted.
 
Pretty sure Tabuu's off waves (which he likes to spam) are cross-universal. And I'd put MUI Goku at Hand level, given the circumstances of their superiority to Smash!Dialga.
 
Goku is low 2-C, Tabuu is at least low 2-C. Tabuu also has shape-shifting and reality warping, so it's pretty stompy.
 
"at least" means tht he has to be at minimium Low 2-C, not that he's infinitely above aselines Low 2-Cs.
 
How does that make it a stomp?

Like, legit I literally said his Reality Warping either isn't applicable or he's too arrogant to use it.

And "At least" is utterly meaningless
 
Tabuu one-shots Master Hand with a forcefield. Master Hand treats Arceus like a literal toy, who's still >>>>> Dialga, who's still Low 2-C via being born.
 
DMB 1 said:
"Reality Warping, Spatial Manipulation, Universe Creaion and Embodiment"

How does the stuff I mentioned above work?
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Reality Warping: Not 100 percent sure. Maybe it's because he made it so he could only be accessed through defeating a duplicate every fighter (speaking of which, he should probably have duplication of others)

Spatial Manipulation: He uses parts of stolen space from the World of Trophies as a cocoon that the fighters had to traverse Metroidvania style to reach him.

Universe Creation + Embodiment: Subspace blows up when Tabuu is defeated.
 
See, this is tough. Cause, Tabuu's a ******* monster. But, Goku in U.I's WAY stronger than a supressed Jiren who's beyond time, who shook a realm of infinite nothingness (AKA, no Time and Space. ALSO, YOU'RE NOT ARGUING WITH ME ON THIS, PEOPLE!) with his mere PRESENCE, who's also WAY beyond Infinite Zamasu (AKA, the guy who tried becoming literally EVERYTHING), and he's stronger than the Gods...

However, Tabuu's different. He's shown a LOT of similar feats. Hell, I daresay he's shown more. His haxes may be proven too much more Goku. However, in terms of AP, Goku does have the advantage.
 
AntorusTheBurningThrone said:
See, this is tough. Cause, Tabuu's a ******* monster. But, Goku in U.I's WAY stronger than a supressed Jiren who's beyond time, who shook a realm of infinite nothingness (AKA, no Time and Space. ALSO, YOU'RE NOT ARGUING WITH ME ON THIS, PEOPLE!) with his mere PRESENCE, who's also WAY beyond Infinite Zamasu (AKA, the guy who tried becoming literally EVERYTHING), and he's stronger than the Gods...
However, Tabuu's different. He's shown a LOT of similar feats. Hell, I daresay he's shown more. His haxes may be proven too much more Goku. However, in terms of AP, Goku does have the advantage.
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Goku does not have the AP advantage. Not even close. Dialga is low 2-C by being ******* born, and Arceus is so much stronger than that it's not even funny. The difference between Master and Arceus is the same as the difference between you and a toy. Tabuu one-shot Master Hand effortlessly. If you're going to convince anyone that Goku is stronger than that, you need to provide SOME reason.
 
Can someone properly explain how does Goku supposedly has the AP advantage?
 
Eficiente said:
Can someone properly explain how does Goku supposedly has the AP advantage?
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Noahkaismith said:
Goku does not have the AP advantage. Not even close. Dialga is low 2-C by being ******* born, and Arceus is so much stronger than that it's not even funny. The difference between Master and Arceus is the same as the difference between you and a toy. Tabuu one-shot Master Hand effortlessly. If you're going to convince anyone that Goku is stronger than that, you need to provide SOME reason.
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Noahkaismith said:
AntorusTheBurningThrone said:
See, this is tough. Cause, Tabuu's a ******* monster. But, Goku in U.I's WAY stronger than a supressed Jiren who's beyond time, who shook a realm of infinite nothingness (AKA, no Time and Space. ALSO, YOU'RE NOT ARGUING WITH ME ON THIS, PEOPLE!) with his mere PRESENCE, who's also WAY beyond Infinite Zamasu (AKA, the guy who tried becoming literally EVERYTHING), and he's stronger than the Gods...
However, Tabuu's different. He's shown a LOT of similar feats. Hell, I daresay he's shown more. His haxes may be proven too much more Goku. However, in terms of AP, Goku does have the advantage.
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Goku does not have the AP advantage. Not even close. Dialga is low 2-C by being ******* born, and Arceus is so much stronger than that it's not even funny. The difference between Master and Arceus is the same as the difference between you and a toy. Tabuu one-shot Master Hand effortlessly. If you're going to convince anyone that Goku is stronger than that, you need to provide SOME reason.
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...

Tabuu rapes.
 
He can't one shot someone strong enough to one shot a baseline either....
 
Monarch Laciel said:
Asuka the Demonic Empress said:
Goku can dodge the wings thanks to ultra instint and one shot Tabuu with the superior AP.
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Dodge an omnidirectional shockwave..?
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To be fair now, that wouldn't be impossible either. However, if the Shockwave were BOTH Lengthy as ****, as well as Omnidirectional, then yeah, Goku couldn't dodge that. But still...
 
Monarch Laciel said:
Asuka the Demonic Empress said:
Goku can dodge the wings thanks to ultra instint and one shot Tabuu with the superior AP.
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Dodge an omnidirectional shockwave..?
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Teleport on the other side of it? It's not a sphere it's a wave- just IT on the otehr side and proceed with the old-woman-punches.

Not like the shockwave has feats of working against people that are peer to Tabuu in the first place mind you and it's not like the wings can't be broken in the second place.
 
>Omnidiretional on a GAMEPLAY video


Oh, i guess sidestepping gives Smash Bros characcters infinite speed or invulnerability, you know you CAN dodge the waves, right?

This is dumb, the waves are not shown to be omnidirectional on the cutscenes, you know, the PLOT.
 
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