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Boruto Anime Canon Debate (Momoshiki Arc)

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When it came out that the Boruto Anime was going to be adapting Kishimoto's Original Script for the movie, I was excited and jumped on the bandwagon about it being at least partially canon, but now that we're well into the arc, i'm skeptical. The Manga always takes priority unless stated otherwise.

  • Kishimoto is an active supervisor on the Manga, as stated by Ikemoto and SJ.
  • He's also stated himself that the Boruto Manga is an official continuation of the Naruto Manga.
The problem with this arc is that, while it may be adapting the Original Script, we the audience don't know what scenes, actions and dialogue are from the Original Script, or Original Content from Studio Perriot. What's more is that the adaption is now contradicting the manga.

  • Anime Only Characters from the Academy arc that were nowhere present in the manga's version of the arc are suddenly taking part in the Chunin Exams
  • Scenes that happen in the movie and the manga are cut or drastically changed in the anime (The Panda Mission, Boruto talking to Naruto in his office stating he's mastered Water Style, Boruto following and attaking Sasuke from behind, Retconning Shinki's entire squad being Gaara's adopted children to only him and axing his puppet, etc.)
  • In the Manga, Sumire, an anime only character, just appeared in the Manga's current arc. She stated she didn't take part in the chunin exams (An excuse for us audience as to why we didn't see her in the arc) but in the Anime, she takes part in the chunin exams and her squad loses in the capture the flag.
The anime's adaptation of the Manga Arc resembles that of an alternate timeline more than it does a simple adaptation. In fact, all of it's "Adapted" material has played out more like a alternate timeline than an adaptation. It's following the general story but Studio Perriot is quite clearly taking massive liberties.

What we know for a fact is that Kishimoto wanted Toneri and Urashiki featured in the Movie but they had to be cut due to time constraints. I suggest we not view the arc as canon and instead only take what we know Kishi wanted in the movie as a supporting or partial canon material, I.E., all the scenes featuring Urashiki and Toneri. But aside from that, we treat the adapted Material as non-canon as we always have.
 
yeah i believe we should accept the fact that Toneri and Urashiki should have been in the movie and manga and allow them to be canon. But Shinki was the only stated to be Gaara's child tho i believe. I think we should wait on the Sumire thing because we may see a second exams right after this arc in the anime or a bonus round for those who lost so i think we should wait on the sumire problem
 
AstralKing7 said:
yeah i believe we should accept the fact that Toneri and Urashiki should have been in the movie and manga and allow them to be canon. But Shinki was the only stated to be Gaara's child tho i believe. I think we should wait on the Sumire thing because we may see a second exams right after this arc in the anime or a bonus round for those who lost so i think we should wait on the sumire problem
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Issue I have with this is that tha anime quite clearly is meant to add stuff to the manga since the manga is only monthly. The anime would be filling in plot and such, which I don tthin can be disregarded. I thin that it is clear that we should at the very least make them composite canons.
 
Rocker1189 said:
Issue I have with this is that tha anime quite clearly is meant to add stuff to the manga since the manga is only monthly. The anime would be filling in plot and such, which I don tthin can be disregarded. I thin that it is clear that we should at the very least make them composite canons.
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The problem is, it goes beyond that.
 
I know but the difference between filler and this is the fact that in anime filler happens iin a way that the timeline makes no sense while here it is nearly a different story that fits into the bits missed out by the manga an example is the manga barely glosses over the chunin exams and the fights which the anime would not do. The manga also recently introduced Sumire which I suppose the anime would tie that in soomehoe. It i more like the manga is missing stuff than the anime is changing stuff.
 
Rocker1189 said:
I know but the difference between filler and this is the fact that in anime filler happens iin a way that the timeline makes no sense while here it is nearly a different story that fits into the bits missed out by the manga an example is the manga barely glosses over the chunin exams and the fights which the anime would not do. The manga also recently introduced Sumire which I suppose the anime would tie that in soomehoe. It i more like the manga is missing stuff than the anime is changing stuff.
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Rocker, bro, The anime arc and Manga arc don't fit together. They might as well be 2 totally different timelines. We can't make them composit because things make no sense and they contradict each other.
 
We are going to miss a lot of good feats and characters if we will stick only to the manga.Lets wait before Momo's arc ends.Maby it will not be that different.
 
TheFinalOrder said:
Rocker, bro, The anime arc and Manga arc don't fit together. They might as well be 2 totally different timelines. We can't make them composit because things make no sense and they contradict each other.
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But we can that is why it is composite. We take feats from both and put it together unless the feats actually contradict each other that badly it sould be perfectly fine.
 
The prez comment about not been in the chuunin exams could be a bad fan translation, maybe it was meant to say in the "finals" of the tournament. Someone should get the raw Japanese chapter, so far nothing has been contradict between manga and anime.
 
in manga boruto used ninja tool for lighining jutsu but in anime he used by himself = contradict between manga and anime

anime simply wanking boruto lol
 
lol no i think it best just to pass that over because of we look at it from a logical perspective he shouldnt have needed to use the tool to make a lightning jutsu anyway since he was able to use lightning style as a child in the academy with ease. It wouldnt make any sense to have him use a tool to make a lightning jutsu when he already knows it
 
More like the anime contradicting itself. Boruto already knows lightning release in the anime, but he used the tool. Lol
 
I dont see how it is if Kishimotto regards it as canon. I mean I dont know if he does, but I dont think we can make the decision of what is canon we are not the writers.
 
But manga is obviously the main canon. If Urashiki partakes in the final battle, it can't be canon.

Except we take the anime over the manga for this arc, which doesn't really make sense.
 
Burning Full Fingers said:
But manga is obviously the main canon. If Urashiki partakes in the final battle, it can't be canon.
Except we take the anime over the manga for this arc, which doesn't really make sense.
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Is it obviously? Like was it said to be main canon by Kishi? Because I thought he said that the anime is canon too.
 
Manga is Main Canon

Anime adapts the manga and adds Canon parts to fill in and expand the story

Main Source>>>>>>>>Adaption always

unless we choose composite canon like Legends Star Wars
 
I think that we should consider the manga as the main canon.
 
I think that composite profiles would run into contradictions sooner or later, and that separate keys would be unnecessary and hard to manage. Let's try to keep things simple.
 
Antvasima said:
I think that composite profiles would run into contradictions sooner or later, and that separate keys would be unnecessary and hard to manage. Let's try to keep things simple.
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when i suggest composite canon i mean with the intention that both are canon, and that if there are huge contradictions in terms of AP and tiering then we take the part thats more canon "The Manga" as disregarding the anime would lose alot of context on many things due to the fact that manga is monthly.
 
I suggest that we pick the manga, and stick with that, if it is done in closer collaboration with the original author.
 
However it is best to ask Kepekley to comment here. He usually manages our Naruto revisions.
 
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