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Mewtwo upgrade

That's just the regular planet. It's always the same for Shadow Mewtwo's burst. It's not something he created, nor are the stars around it. Even looking at the description of his stage, it's described as a "subspace rift". As in a crack in space, not an entire alternate universe, or even one large enough to contain multiple stars. Considering this, it's likely Mewtwo is just flying up/out of the rift it created and then nuking the planet from there.
 
Great! Actually, I was kinda hoping you could debunk this.

So, AW recalculated the planetary nuke to 5-A, so I can drop pretenses and just say that Mewtwo is 5-A without getting it to scale to only the Shadow form. Because Mewtwo can fight Shadow Mewtwo.
 
Bud, we already stopped the 4-A stuff and it's crossed out. His 5-B calc got recalc'd to 5-A is what the thread's about after post no. 3.
 
I agree with 5A, incredibly consistent with his other casual 5B feats
 
Ofc. This thread brings more attention to the calc. I linked it in the bump, though I don't know if it is the best idea.
 
The other thread was forgotten, The Tapus, Ultra Beasts and Necrozma, Solgaleo and Lunala will be straight 4-B.

[Since Mewtwo needs to Mega Evolve to do this feat, the only ones that will scale at 5-A are: Mega Mewtwo, 50% Zygarde, Xerneas, Yvetal and Red Genesect. At least 5-A will be for 100% Zygarde and Magearna]

Note: Only if it is assumed that Shadow Mega Mewtwo is comparable to Mega Mewtwo, which seems to not be the case.
 
The real cal howard said:
He Mega Evolves to do the feat, but can survive it in base.
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Any character can survive it, even weak Croagunk by game mechanic in a battle which makes everyone scale to each other, so it cannot be used.
 
I can also assume that Shadow Mega Mewtwo is an amped version of Mega Mewtwo X, which scales only to that form.
 
I'll need more input on the 4-B stuff, but I'll add spatial manipulation to the UBs.
 
If Shadow Mewtwo's 5-A calc is accepted, then the upgrade seems perfectly legit.

Though what's this about 4-B Tapus and such?
 
From what I remember, it was about Necrozma using an individual of the Cosmic Duo to keep up his Ultra Form. Saik could explain it infinitely better than I can.
 
Basically Necrozma needs a large amount of light to reach its 4-B form for illuminating the universe, in order to do so Necrozma stole the light of either Solgaleo or Lunala, it was discussed that its strange for a being to become 4-B by stealing energy from being much lower than itself, so Solgaleo, Lunala, Base Necrozma, The Tapus [That fought Solgaleo and Lunala] and the UB'S [That clashed with the Tapus] were discussed to be placed at 4-B.
 
If that's what we're going with, I really don't know if I can support it. 4-B comes from Ultra Necrozma, who is drastically superior to just normal Necrozma + Solgaleo/Lunala. Phyco even mentions that this reborn Ultra Necrozma can't control its own light in its fractured state, and is just going to cause itself more pain. This isn't merely due to the raw power it absorbed (considering it easily stomped Solgaleo/Lunala), but due to it now having an actual source of light to draw from, again.

We can't just backwards scale everyone to Ultra Necrozma when Ultra Necrozma's power isn't as simple as "Necrozma + Solgaleo/Lunala".
 
Well Azathoth i'm iffy to their likely 5-B ratings based that the UB's caused Zygarde move to Alola, the battle was never seen or shown.
 
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