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Goku vs Luffy REMATCH!!

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I was waiting for this :^)


I'm doing this right Goku has a slight AP and Durability advantage however it was recently stated that Haki can become much stronger while facing stronger enemies
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Despite Goku's AP advantage Luffy should be able to close that gap and surpass him in that department, has resistance to blunt force attacks, precognition, better stamina and I'd debate Luffy is more skilled at this point.
 
Goku simply has to spam his ki attacks. Luffy needs to hit him with his body while Goku can block most of his hits with ki attacks and keep doing damage until eventually he wins.

Or rather one super kamehameha to finish him off.

Also Goku becomes more powerful in battle just as much as Luffy does and in fact Luffy hasn't really become stronger so far and yet his fight with Katakuri lasted a shit ton of time.
 
Goku because I am Blanked :^)
 
Luffy for reasons above.
 
Goku doesn't spam ki blasts or start with his strongest attack in character. Just feel like I should mention that.

Also, Luffy for Knight's reasons
 
Luffy Via Precognition and High Resistance to blunt force which something makes up half of Goku's Arsenal
 
@Blanked Ummmm Goku doesn't spam ki blasts or Kamehamehas and you know that. Goku enjoys fighting in CQC just like how Zoro prefers fighting in CQC rather than abusing sword slashes.


Goku doesn't get stronger as the fight goes on, I'm not sure where you really got that from. If anything he holds back sometimes but he doesn't become stronger. And his fight hasn't really taken as long as you think it did.
 
i-d say theres good points for luffy, but he couldnt defeat goku in less than a minute, since right now thats around luffy limit in gear 4th, well thats that, he is almost inpervious to physical attacks in G4 against same tier characters but blasts is very different.

either he times out or not, due to stamina problems im voting goku here as his durability was very decent by this point (im saying he could take a beating, not that his dura is higher than luffies).
 
Yes, Goku doesn't do that usually, but when he finds him self fighting an opponent who is made out of rubber and deals with normal blows easily he will do it.

And you can't say it's not in character because Goku never fought someone like Luffy so there is no reason to think he wouldn't use the said strategy. He even used many ki attacks against Buu for example even tho Buu is not entirely like Luffy.

Also, their battle was pretty long for any normal anime battle standards. Also, it was added on their profiles that Saiyan become stronger in order to answer to superior strength of their enemies.
 
@Mania Actually Gear Fourth can last for around 20 minutes with constant use.


@Blanked


Again no he won't. Literally in none of his fights he's had where he's outmatched Goku has never resorted to simply spamming Ki Blasts.


Again i already pointed that out. While he hasn't fought anyone like Luffy he's fought people much stronger than Luffy and never spammed Ki Blasts. It's not in character for Goku to do so.

Not really. We haven't even been given a timeframe for the duration of the fight so let's not just eyeball. Also i assume your referring to Reactive Power level? Because in the weaknesses it's literally stated that it's extremely time intensive and works if Luffy really starts to stomp him which won't happen.
 
^show me where it lasted 20 minutes? there was statements that was little over 1 minute and dont say one anime episode that dured that long
 
No it's just a saiyan trait to grow stronger when fighting a strong enemy not the reactive evolution.
 
@Knight Fighting stronger enemies and fighting Luffy is a false equivalence and bad comparison.

In this case he can't harm Luffy with normal hits and for so he has to restor to his Ki blast and that's it. Pure logic and since he never fought an opponent like this the argument in character has no sense as Goku in character never dealt with someone like Luffy.

When fighting stronger opponents he was doing the same damage whether he used his punches or his KI so it didn't matter.
 
@Blanked I wasn't talking to you I was talking to the other guy who thought it was the reaction evolution
 
Mania568 said:
^show me where it lasted 20 minutes? there was statements that was little over 1 minute and dont say one anime episode that dured that long
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Irrelevant time limits are removed for the sake of fair battles. From what I know at least.
 
Darkmon cns said:
When was it stated the time limits were removed? The op didn't say that.
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We do it in general. Or else Sonic's matches and many other would be much different from what they are.
 
We do it in general. Or else Sonic's matches and many other would be much different from what they are.

No super sonic has no relevant time limit and time limits have been used in many matches.
 
Time limits can be removed, but i guess that depends on OP? I don't know I usually assume Natsu's high 6-C forms don't have time limits as that's what i have been told to do.
 
@Blanked No not really, again I'll repeat myself Goku isn't going to spam Ki attacks. I'll point to Goku vs Botamo, Goku's punches weren't doing much to him and he still didn't spam ki attacks like how you are claiming.


Again Botamo. He didn't spam Ki attacks there and he isn't doing it now. And you can't apply your own logic to Goku. I'm not sure how many times i need to repeat myself but Goku is not going to spam Ki attacks and you know that.


I never said it didn't do that??? Are you confused because i never said Gokus Ki attacks are weaker than his physical attacks. But again His Reactive Powerlevel isn't going to happen instantaneously, he'll need to be heavily hurt first.
 
Because there was no need to do it against botamo. In fact we all saw how Goku beat him.

Don't see a single reason why someone wouldn't spam ki attacks if they have no other way to win(he ringed out botamo and that's it). That's just funny, it's like saying Goku will lose on purpose.
 
if punches didnt work he wouldnt use ki blasts? what reasoning is that? ofc he would try something that works, goku didnt use ki blasts on botamo because he learned it would all be absorved so he didnt want to waste energy, goku did several ki blast attacks on movies, against cell, etc, not using it on db doesnt mean he wouldnt if nothing else worked.

edit:got in too late.
 
@Blanked

Still Botamo had an extremely similar ability like Luffy. Goku didn't spam Ki attacks with him. Yes we know how Goku defeated him but you understand my point. Goku isn't going to start spamming Ki attacks whenever it's against his character. Saying otherwise is essentially a head canon.


Luffy isn't immune to blunt force attacks, he's just highly resistato them. And considering Goku has the AP advantage Luffy is going to feel them to an extent.


@Mania Movies aren't canon and cell is a different case since he could regenerate. Show me an instance of Goku ever spamming Ki.
 
Goku spam ki in his battle against Jiren.
 
Botamo also absorbed ki attacks so what's the point of using ki attacks?

Again he will notice he is barely doing any relevant damage and will try some ki spam. Sure he won't do large quantities of ki spam, but enough to weaken Luffy to the point to beat him with super kamehameha.
 
I don't remember Botamo absorbing Ki. Mind showing me when that happens?


And again. It's not in Goku's character to do so. This isn't a bloodlusted Goku where he'll start spamming Ki Blasts. I agree he'll definitely try to fire some at times but he's not going to spam them. Even when he does Luffy can dodge them via Kenbunshoku since none of Goku's Ki attacks have a large amount of AoE to them.
 
Goku start with a kamehameha in his battle against Jiren e_e.
 
You do realize Luffy can fly to right? And his AP is Nuffield for the most part due to Luffy's blunt force resistance.
 
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