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Icey Hair vs Fiery Hair (Gray Fullbuster vs Kwon Shi-Yun)

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Both are in their 8-A forms. Fight takes place at the grand magic games with a starting distance of 10 meters apart. Speed is equalized. Who wins!

Gray Fullbuster: 3 (Blanked, Captain Torch, 9TailAcno)

Kwon Shi-Yun: 7 (CoreofBalance(COB), Risci-viragosi, ZackMoon1234, Veloxt1r0kore, Theglassman12, Iapetus the Impaler, Gargoyle One)
 
It's kinda like Natsu vs Gray, except she knows martial arts and her powers function differently. I thought it would be a neat match.

Thanks for your vote.
 
I guess that's true, though they don't seem to be very combat applicable as she hasn't used them in combat before. But I guess everyone in The Gamer verse is considered an ability user, so I suppose they'd be useless. But they only last a short time. And she'd be likely to assume he's an ability user as, well, he has abilities, lol.
 
You know Gray can freeze her upon contact? Martial arts won't help a lot here. She can break out of it, but she can be restrained everytime she gets in close combat and even if it's for a second or two that gives Gray the adavantage for counter attack.

He also has range options which he is not afraid to use to win this.

And his ice magic is much more versatil than anything she has and his stamina is greater as even fighting with his broken bones doesn't limit him so i will vote for Gray.

That said you could have used Ultear as she is practically gray but girl with her ice.
 
Blanked said:
You know Gray can freeze her upon contact? Martial arts won't help a lot here.
He also has range options which he is not afraid to use to win this.

And his ice magic is much more versatil than anything she has and his stamina is greater as even fighting with his broken bones doesn't limit him so i will vote for Gray.
she litiraly burns herspirit around her body to fight...


pain tollerence doesent really matter as she normaly goes for stunning or deadly blows, she can also heal her own stamina
 
Burning around her body doesn't mean that he can't freeze immobilise her for a sec or at least body parts.

Pain tolerance always matters to keep up in battle(in particular for stunning) and deadly blows are on his side as he has piercing attacks and can create swords to cut her. Or other piercing and cutting attacks.
 
Blanked said:
Burning her sprit really doesn't mean that he can't freeze immobilise her for a sec or two.
Pain tolerance always matters to keep up in battle(in particular for stunning) and deadly blows are on his side as he has piercing attacks and can create swords to cut her. Or other piercing and cutting attacks.
stunning via hitting in places wheree he gets either blown back or in an aqward position has nothing to do with pain.

natsu could cunter hes freeze pretty easly . she has facced cutting weapons, and i dont see hhim trying to outsmart her and attack her weakneses
 
Gray uses range in his battles constantly so he will use range attacks as its most of his attacks is. He can keep her on distance without too much trouble here and win.

Getting him in awkward position won't beat him remember that he can also create ice pillars and just get on several or dozens of meters of height with no problem to dodge anything she has. He can also trap her in a cage or attack from beneath the ground(how he beat Juvia) which she would never expect.
 
Gray and Natsu in these forms never even fought in screen. The battle between END and Devil Slayer gray is on a completely diffrent scale.
 
Blanked said:
Gray uses range in his battles constantly so he will use range attacks as its most of his attacks is. He can keep her on distance without too much trouble here and win.
Getting him in awkward position won't beat him remember that he can also create ice pillars and just get on several or dozens of meters of height with no problem to dodge anything she has. He can also trap her in a cage or attack from beneath the ground(how he beat Juvia) which she would never expect.
he does tend to stop to strip, and zhe redhead alwys charges onless outclassed

and hes VERY predictable and does go in to close range a lot of times

getting his neck does matter, as does the fact that her stile works on way to NOT leave time to react

under the ground attack is basic attack in the abyss and WAS abée to jump and propell herself 10-30 meters easly.


the cage has no way to tank her ultimate technique
 
Blanked said:
Gray and Natsu in these forms never even fought in screen. The battle between END and Devil Slayer gray is on a completely diffrent scale.
and any proof he can freeze her flames?
 
Blanked
is this version high hypersonic? if not dpeedblitz when she dark flames(being more than 10 times stronger than the normal flames, which are faster than her supersonic self)
 
"He tend to stop to strip" is this your argument for real?

Not only does he usually strip before the battle even starts, but he can strip without even showing it or he himself doesn't even know when he does that. Not to mention that's just comedy part and his stripping never made him lose a battle that is just absurd to use as argument.

Main point here is.

She has no range attacks, while everything Gray does has range and his versatility is massive(just look at his profile) he even has a barrage of attacks that are extremely hard to dodge and even his sword is like two meters long so not even that is close combat.

She ain't beating someone who is far more versatile and has range to beat her up and keep her on distance. He can even make her slip by freezing floor. Closing her in cage even for a second is more than enough for him to have a free attack.


Also, "not to leave time to react" is NLF and not an argument.

Their speed is also equal so he can react on her as he moves just as fast, not to mention she likely won't even get a single opportinty to get in close combat before he destroys her with spam.


@Ricsi speed is equalised dude. Gray is MHS+ which means he would be hundreds of times faster than her if the speed wasn't equalised so stop using speed as an argument.
 
Actually correction, Gray is around thousand times faster so the speed is equalised.
 
the character not here being bothered by said stripping problem normaly doesent matter, it in character for him, and red here is not gonna wait like the fairy tail characthers do, it being apoor atempt at comedy doesent change the handycap.

he would not try al that hard in characther and shed easly get in range

she still has flames that melt fire round her and the abilities dont matter if he doesent go all out from beginning. he has no reason to TRY to keep her at range and wouldent in character

the litiral point of martial arts is to pile hits before enemy does something, and whit him having a human body hed be still hurt by the attacks. its not speed, its the martial arts.
 
also, unless he tries tokeep her at range at all costs, somthing not in character, she would attack and break his neck, being much more brutall
 
He wouldn't keep her in range? How much do you know about Gray? All of his fights are done on range you know?

The stripping is not a handicap and stop with that, FT characters wait and stuff it's not like he is stripping normally he just takes the clothing and throws it and that actually help him if he throws his short on her face or better why would he even have a shirt when most of the time he die do even have cloths to strip so seriously stop with that.

You are downplaying Gray to justify her win and ignore his fighting style is range and even saying he won't take her seriously as if he ever had a reason not too.
 
Ricsi-viragosi said:
also, unless he tries tokeep her at range at all costs, somthing not in character, she would attack and break his neck, being much more brutall
She is not strong enough to beat him easily in range you know not to mention he can get range any time he wants or fight her off with his ice which she is not melting easily as she is not more powerful than Natsu is and it's not like he does it ethier.

And most Important range battle is in character!

Remember that anything that's not h2h combat is range combat.
 
Blanked said:
She is not strong enough to beat him easily in range you know not to mention he can get range any time he wants or fight her off with his ice which she is not melting easily as she is not more powerful than Natsu is and it's not like he does it ethier.

And most Important range battle is in character!

Remember that anything that's not h2h combat is range combat.
yes, but she can easly bur ice ranged attacks and ,if needed, use the family secret technique, which nullifies magic to an extent
 
Why would she be able to easily bur ice range attacks?

And her family technique would be necessary each and every time and it will be rather pointless agaisnt an attack that spams projectiles or attack that generally freeze the field rather than attack her or attacks that show up out of nowhere like his ice make hammer that can show up right above her head.
 
Blanked said:
Why would she be able to easily bur ice range attacks?
And her family technique would be necessary each and every time and it will be rather pointless agaisnt an attack that spams projectiles or attack that generally freeze the field rather than attack her or attacks that show up out of nowhere like his ice make hammer that can show up right above her head.
its a permanent upgrade that last for some time
 
I read the profile and it says magic placed on her so that at max helps with freezing it self which is like the binding she escaped from.

Being ambushed is not really the same , mostly cause she likely knew her opponent where there through simple instinct. She is a martial artist and that is pretty common for them.

Also, as said he can keep range in any case or through his attacks or through simply creating walls of ice beaneath him under her etc.
 
Oh and try not to like quote(mostly cause it's harder to read and spams a lot) just use @Blanked on that way everyone know you talk to me.
 
Blanked said:
I read the profile and it says magic placed on her so that at max helps with freezing it self which is like the binding she freed herself from.
whta is that supposed to mean? no really, what?

she make a aure of fire around her while she get stronger

the hidden power its a dozin times stronger and can bur magic
 
If he try to freeze her she could just burn through it. That's what it means. While her abilty won't just randomly burn everything he throws at her mostly due to the AOE he has.
 
Blanked said:
If he try to freeze her she could just burn through it. That's what it means. While her abilty won't just randomly burn everything he throws at her mostly due to the AOE he has.
it can burn magic...
 
Yes, I know. His magic tho is still generating cold that weaknes flames and burning through something bigger(AOE) requires more time than something smaller (logic lol) since her power up or rather burning is only temporary simply slowing her down is enough.
 
Blanked said:
Yes, I know. His magic tho is still generating cold that weaknes flames and burning through something bigger(AOE) requires more time than something smaller (logic lol) since her power up or rather burning is only temporary simply slowing her down is enough.
as long as its active it shouldent slow her, as it burnt magic instantly
 
That's a theory rather than anything else. Having a huge wall or a geyser of ice and "burning" throught it is not like "burning" a snowball.

Also, is there the specific time limit to like how long it exactly lasts?
 
Blanked said:
That's a theory rather than anything else. Having a huge wall or a geyser of ice and "burning" throught it is not like "burning" a snowball.
Also, is there the specific time limit to like how long it exactly lasts?
depends which

the forbidden one last five minutes or so.

the normal lasts indipendently as long as she has stamina, which she can regenerate faster than use it by training
 
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