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Yhwach vs Avatar of Calamity

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uh. not seeing how AoC wins against the walking NLF here, assume any of her moves work the dude has already rewritten the future to one where it didn't or she missed.
 
It actually works against Fate manipulation as well. Given that the AoC's acuasality scales from Homura, it should be enough, unless the Almighty has feats of working on acausals
 
Hmm, I'll just step off from this discussion as neither Bleach or any secondary entry to Madoka are my area of expertise.
 
A multiversal+ retcon (rewriting causality as well) doesn't faze Homura, this where its Acausality came from.
 
@Not

Yhwach is stated to be able to obtain and use any power that he sees and understands and through his future sight he'll be able to understand virtually any power.
 
@Kaltias

A while, since Ichibe was able to kick Yhwach's ass up and down the Soul King's Palace until he finally finished. After that Yhwach completely turned the tables even though he had his powers nulled by Ichibe's name powers beforehand.
 
Then he probably gets haxed in a time stop beforehand. Which is his best feat of "undoing his death"? Can he come back after having his soul, life force, powers and memories absorbed?
 
@Kuuichigo

It still took Yhwach a while to overturn Ichibe's power and take it for his own, since Yhwach, for all intents and purposes, should have been dead once Ichibe moved to squash "Ant" until "lol Almighty" kicked in to continue the story.
 
Uhmmm....i can't think AoC win agaisnt Ywach due of Ywach hax is better than her.After is see both of their frofile,Ywach can take this.
 
Did it take that long? IIRC, when he got the lol Almighty Ichibe's powers were already gone from him. I guess being a "Black" didn't work.
 
Veloxt1r0kore said:
Uhmmm....i can't think AoC win agaisnt Ywach due of Ywach hax is better than her.After is see both of their frofile,Ywach can take this.
Please elaborate even more which hax is better than AoC
 
No, yhwach null ichibei Futen Taisatsuryo(who absorb everything) with the Almighty, but without the almighty he was somewhat resist to Ichibei Shikai and Bankai, who erase his name and his power and reduce his stats to ant level.

Anyway the Yourself can copy aparance, personality, power, knowlage and equiment, so can that do something?
 
The AoC's power mimicry copies all of that as well. How is Yhwach's guard against mindscrew?
 
@Kuuichigo

Ichibe explicitly stated that all the black in the universe belongs to him, thus Yhwach's initial power stealing failed to work. After that Yhwach got his rear handed to him until "lol Almighty" kicked in again, restoring him to full strength, giving him his future sight, and allowing him to blow Ichibe away.

But, in hindsight I forgot that Yhwach can rip powers with Sankt Altar as well.

Problem is whether or not he can do that while time is frozen because apparently AoC goes right for Time Stop.
 
I don't particularly care for this thread either, I just wanted to clarify some things.
 
Hmmm, if Almighty won't work thanks to AoC's Acausality, Yhwach is pretty much screwed.

Although, can AoC kill Yhwach permanently? I believe he still can use The Almighty to undo his own death.
 
The AoC can resist its own mindscrew that can controls hundreds of people. Also time stop/acceleration/deceleration give it the edge. And BFR to the nonexistent timeline
 
Homu Sweet Homu said:
Veloxt1r0kore said:
Uhmmm....i can't think AoC win agaisnt Ywach due of Ywach hax is better than her.After is see both of their frofile,Ywach can take this.
Please elaborate even more which hax is better than AoC

Lol how silly me,i check it again.AoC have a chance agaisnt Ywach.

As i said in my wall,its really hard to analysis because i ddn't know AoC hax (her profile can help,but still....) and Ywach ability is hard to my knowledge.
 
Time Stop is the only issue here but Yhwach has The Visionary + Fear + The Antithesis along with Zaka No Tachi to **** up the AOC
 
The AoC can actually accelerate, slow down and stop time on top of time travel.

What do these abilities do?
 
Because time stopping will be useless against someone who's jumping through multiple futures at once. I should also mention Uryu explains: http://i10.**********.com/bleach/661/bleach-7019419.jpg http://i1.**********.com/bleach/661/bleach-7019425.jpg The All Mighty is inactive, only if Yhwach decides to take a nap, so of course it's always activated :p

I have several counters for this:

(1). You seem to have forgotten, but Yhwach's abilities cannot to negated, he already possesses resistance to Power Nullification via the Miracle.

(2).

V - The Vanishing Point Yhwach can instantly cut himself out of the time-stream by erasing himself both visually and mentally from the enemy. He can erase the concept of his own existence, while still existing in the non existence. http://i2.**********.com/bleach/571/bleach-4826729.jpg http://i8.**********.com/bleach/571/bleach-4826731.jpg http://i2.**********.com/bleach/571/bleach-4826733.jpg http://i10.**********.com/bleach/571/bleach-4826739.jpg

He can attack/kill Dio while cloaking himself in non existence. Dio won't understand what is attacking him, and his stand's pre-cognition won't matter because Yhwach doesn't exist anymore. http://i4.**********.com/bleach/571/bleach-4826725.jpg http://i6.**********.com/bleach/571/bleach-4826727.jpg http://i6.**********.com/bleach/571/bleach-4826735.jpg http://i6.**********.com/bleach/571/bleach-4826737.jpg

This power also let's him leave behind an afterimage that can act as a decoy, giving opponents the impression that their attacks have landed, but not really because he has already disappeared. Infinite speed blitz won't work in any circumstances, because this ability is just as fast, it's instantaneous. http://i6.**********.com/bleach/571/bleach-4826737.jpg

(2a). Vanishing Slider: By concentrating (inside the realm of non existence) all of his spiritual pressure into sliding backwards slightly, this ability allows Yhwach to react with a speed that surpasses any reaction speed his opponent may have. http://i2.**********.com/bleach/572/bleach-4837711.jpg
 
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