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A Magical Psycho Witch VS A demon for hire

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Idk why I'm asking this but...

Dante entered the PM:MM verse and then, Homura Akemi sees the demon slayer, thinking that this man would be a potential threat towards Madoka and challenges him to a fight.

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This is Akuma Homura vs SMT Dante in-character full power speed equal


Shin Megami Tensei Nocturne - Dante
Homura Akemi: 9


Dante (Shin Megami Tensei): 1 (2?)


Inconclusive: 0
 
lets see : the first think i want to point out is the intellingence difference,dante's is very high while homura is nigh-omniscient,this is a huge problem for dante as homura can predict all his moves.

second think i noticed is the hax gap,let me explain : the only think in dantes kit that poses a threat to homura is durability negation(almighty attacks ) on the other hand lizard girl has various abilities that affect dante( the problem is that he has no resistances).specificaly:

1) memory manipulation and power drain..she can just alter all of dantes memories and make him just a standing shell..then she wiill absorb his powers and kill him..

2) conceptual manipulation...should i say more?

3) reality warp/dimmensional manipulation are strong abilities that dante can not counter

4)she can also kill him in the past when he is still a baby

5) use the pocket reality manipulation trick and trap him in one FOREVERRRR!

and do not forget that dante will most likely try to kill the avatar of homura not the real entity!

so i vote for homura if it wasnt obvious enough :p
 
I'm fairly positive that if Homura is defeating Kagutsuchi with high-mid diff, Dante stomps because people like Kagu are complete fodder for him.
 
Kaltias said:
I'm fairly positive that if Homura is defeating Kagutsuchi with high-mid diff, Dante stomps because people like Kagu are complete fodder for him.
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why ? depending on his page that does not make sense..care to expalin:p?
 
I find it amusing how the gap between Dante and SMT Dante is literal bullshit tier of a difference.

Multiversal acasual pizza is something i honestly enjoy.
 
As i said in my previous post homura out haxes dante he has no resistances at all..if you can coutner the arguments i made i nthe first psot i will change my vote to dante :p
 
>Implying

I'm not here to debate. I seen magical pshyco witch in the side and click it since I didn't know who it was referring to.
 
Dante is stronger to the point where he one-shot with any attack, and Homura's abstract existence won't do any good because everyone and their mother in SMT is an abstract and Dante can kill them with no problem. I'm also positive that he has dealt with most of the stuff that Homura has because those are standard powers in SMT. That said, I think that i'll wait a bit to make a call, Fate did said that Homura would have a shot at winning, and she knows SMT better than I do
 
Technically, and I recall this being brought up in the SMT acasual revision, Dante may or may not be time paradox applicable.
 
Kaltias said:
Dante is stronger to the point where he one-shot with any attack, and Homura's abstract existence won't do any good because everyone and their mother in SMT is an abstract and Dante can kill them with no problem. I'm also positive that he has dealt with almost everything Homura has because those are standard powers in SMT. That said, I think that i'll wait a bit to make a call, Fate did said that Homura would have a shot at winning, and she knows SMT better than I do
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i already pointed out that dantes one shot is a problem....but based on his page he has no resistances to homuras abilities..she simply has more ways to oneshot him that he has...i really do not mean to be mean..iam confused thats all..i thought we use their pages to make arguements..how exactly can dante deal with conceptual and memory manipulation /power drain combo?

how he can escape from a pocket reality or a time stop? and yea homura is nigh-omniscient as well
 
Because Homura wins if she haxes him right at the start (which admittedly isn't OOC) while Dante wins via hitting her once with literally any attack. That said, i'm not 100% sure if the match is unfair and i'll wait for someone who knows SMT better than I do to comment
 
Kaltias said:
Because Homura wins if she haxes him right at the start (which admittedly isn't OOC) while Dante wins via hitting her once with literally any attack. That said, i'm not 100% sure if the match is unfair and i'll wait for someone who knows SMT better than I do to comment
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oh..so killing her avatar will result in her real death?if this is the case then i agree that dante has the upper hand..:p

sorry for bothering you btw
 
well yeah Dante is superior to ppl who have that hax they are a joke to him apparently but Homura has hax to keep up Dante would have the strength upper hand also speed is equal...
 
TISSG7Redgrave said:
well yeah Dante is superior to ppl who have that hax they are a joke to him apparently but Homura has hax to keep up Dante would have the strength upper hand also speed is equal...
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Umm i lost you...
 
I'm just wondering hax vs a person who is superior to the people who used that hax though seems time travel may work but Dante could have acausal so...

@Azzy GDI i need pizza lel
 
It depends on who's got the first blood actually. Both combatants can one shot each other, but i'm leaning toward Homura due her versatility. I'm sure with she can kill or mindscrew+power drain him before Dante can land a hit on her. Plus, does her Nigh-omniscience be a fator here? if it does, shouldn't she like...know Dante next move?
 
Dante murder stomps via hilarious AP advantage.

Seriously, The Demi-Fiend is more fair, and he still stomps.
 
could easily one shot near end game demi-fiend and iirc kagustsuchi was a fodder to demi-fiend anyway
 
Nah i get that, but is there like a list of sorts? I know YVHV is god tier, but after that I'm lost, didn't know Dante was that high up to be above Demi-Fiend so now I'm curious.
 
Oh, sorry. I think I should re-words it. Perhaps her familiars could stall Dante for a little bit while Homura can just sneak attack him.
 
Don't think time stop is working on him.

And if he is really that high up familiars won't stop, they'd be they don't even exist to him, fodder.
 
Homu Sweet Homu said:
Oh, sorry. I think I should re-words it. Perhaps her familiars could stall Dante for a little bit while Homura can just sneak attack him. or she can just time stop and mIndscrew+power drain combo him. I don't see any time manipilation resistance in his profile.
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Round Trip, Ebony Ivory, Whirlwind

Any one of these solves that no sweat.
 
Homu Sweet Homu said:
It depends on who's got the first blood actually. Both combatants can one shot each other, but i'm leaning toward Homura due her versatility. I'm sure with she can kill or mindscrew+power drain him before Dante can land a hit on her. Plus, does her Nigh-omniscience be a fator here? if it does, shouldn't she like...know Dante next move?
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yea those was my points on my first post...the intelligence advantage is paramaount yet noone seems to care about it..also dante will oneshot what?homura in his eyes is a 14year old girl (her avatar)and that girl will be the target of his attacks!
 
How the hell is intelligence paramount?

You do realize Kagutsuchi (Shin Megami Tensei) is Nigh-Omniscient yet Dante stomped him right?

Intelligence does not make up for such an absolutely hilarious AP advantage.

Omnidirectional Ebony and Ivory, Round Trip, and Whirlwind are all game enders.
 
TheJ-ManRequiem said:
Don't think time stop is working on him.

And if he is really that high up familiars won't stop, they'd be they don't even exist to him, fodder.
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Why time stop does not work him?his profile at least does not mention time manip resistance!
 
"Screwing around" involves tossing out Omnidirectional attacks to see if his opponent is any challenge , he then gets disappointed upon finding out the Homura gets one shot by him.
 
Because Chaos, theres a SMT revision going on right now if i remember correctly, and Dante was mentioned it.

It'll probably be added soon.
 
Wait...(look at his profile again, then look at demi-fiend), I change my mind I think he really stomps here. I really forgot at how high Dante really is in SMT ladder. That, and Homura need to get close to him to deliver athe minscrew+power drain combo which is a bad idea.
 
That's SMT for you.

I mean, I say wait for Fate to give input, but I'm sure she agrees Dante Murderizes.

Huh...Murderize...I need a patent for that.
 
If only PMMM have more Multiversal+ characters. (Sigh). By the way, would you mind check out my first thread and tell me if it's a stomp or not? I really think both combatants have pretty balanced hax.
 
Homura likely doesn't actually need to touch him, considering that both her magical girl form and her witch form don't need to do it to mindscrew and they are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Akuma Homura
 
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