Zi-O Oma Form Downgrade

[TrueBK98]

Currently, Zi-O Oma Form is being rated as "At least 2-C, possibly 2-B" for separates the fused world into normal Rider's worlds. And the Rider Muiltiverse is treated as countless universes on this wiki via this statement from Sento. But all the Rider's worlds are a part of Toei Multiverse as a whole. Rather than the Rider Multiverse being consists of countless universes, it's actualy the Toei Multiverse that consists of countless universes. Since Zi-O's power only touched the Rider part of the Toei Multiverse, he should only be rated as 2-C.

 

[LinkSlayerLvX]

Interesting, but you should call someone from general thread or staff to reply it.

 

[Diinou_HotHead]

Wasn't Sento referring to alternate possibilities in his series? (Rider Multiverse)

That would just make the already countless Rider Multiverse part of an even larger Multiverse (Higher-end 2-B)

 

[TrueBK98]

Who should I call?

 

[TrueBK98]

Wasn't Sento referring to alternate possibilities in his series? (Rider Multiverse)
That would just make the already countless Rider Multiverse part of an even larger Multiverse (Higher-end 2-B)

He only said there are countless parallel worlds co-exist along side his own without specify anything. Although, he did talk about another world resembles his own, it doesn't prove that he was only talking about alternate possibilities.

 

[Akreious]

... Huh?

Beyond cameos and crossovers, there's nothing actually saying that Sento was referring to the Toei Multiverse. It's a term and concept made up by fans to explain the Cameos and Crossovers- not an actual canon thing.

 

[TrueBK98]

... Huh?
Beyond cameos and crossovers, there's nothing actually saying that Sento was referring to the Toei Multiverse. It's a term and concept made up by fans to explain the Cameos and Crossovers- not an actual canon thing.

Toei Multiverse is real since it already stated in Decade that there are other worlds like Shinkenger's world existing along side the Rider's worlds.

 

[LinkSlayerLvX]

In my opinion

If we know how big of Rider's universe, which it is 2-B, it mean we can know how big of Toei's mutiverse that should bigger than Rider's Universe, also if someone can control all of Toei's mutiverse, it should bigger than others, sound like 2-A or 1-C....

 

[LinkSlayerLvX]

Example, If I bring gag from .5 Ep of Zi-O as (joke) real feat and edit gag profile

Sougo should get more than 2-B he has who can destroy Toei studio lol

 

[TrueBK98]

No, that still 2-B since bigger than countless universes is still smaller than infinite universes. Destroy Toei studio is definitely beyond 2-B for sure.

 

[Akreious]

Toei Multiverse is real since it already stated in Decade that there are other worlds like Shinkenger's world existing along side the Rider's worlds.

They acknowledge the existence of Sentai Universes; not confirmation of a Toeiverse.

Besides, the Toeiverse is countless in number and we know Rider Worlds take up a significant portion of it alongside Sentai Verses.

 

[TrueBK98]

Most Muliverses inside Teoi Multiverse have acknowledged the existence of others along side them. Since it's a standard here to assume countless = at least 1000, it would make more sense for the number of universes in Rider Multiverse to be less than 1000.

 

[Antvasima]

So what are your conclusions here?

 

[Akreious]

Most Muliverses inside Teoi Multiverse have acknowledged the existence of others along side them. Since it's a standard here to assume countless = at least 1000, it would make more sense for the number of universes in Rider Multiverse to be less than 1000.

... What? When in the world did we ever consider Countless to be at least 1000? Countless by definition implies far more than that; just that we don't know what exact number. You can't say Countless is baseline 2-B like that at all given that 1000 is nowhere near countless.

 

[Antvasima]

Countless is 2-B, yes.

 

[LinkSlayerLvX]

Most Muliverses inside Teoi Multiverse have acknowledged the existence of others along side them. Since it's a standard here to assume countless = at least 1000, it would make more sense for the number of universes in Rider Multiverse to be less than 1000.

... What? When in the world did we ever consider Countless to be at least 1000? Countless by definition implies far more than that; just that we don't know what exact number. You can't say Countless is baseline 2-B like that at all given that 1000 is nowhere near countless.

Yep, you can't count Toei Universe is countless in number, it must larger than that one, like I replied before

 

[TrueBK98]

So, are we gonna keep the rating the same and just have Decade on the high-end of 2-B?

 

[Akreious]

Most Muliverses inside Teoi Multiverse have acknowledged the existence of others along side them. Since it's a standard here to assume countless = at least 1000, it would make more sense for the number of universes in Rider Multiverse to be less than 1000.

... What? When in the world did we ever consider Countless to be at least 1000? Countless by definition implies far more than that; just that we don't know what exact number. You can't say Countless is baseline 2-B like that at all given that 1000 is nowhere near countless.

Yep, you can't count Toei Universe is countless in number, it must larger than that one, like I replied before

Not sure what this reply means...?

The point of my post was that Countless is considered to be far, far FAR above Baseline 2-B since, given that it's "Countless", must be an asininely large number; just a number we can't place. 1000, 2000, 3000, 4000, etc. are all very quantifiable and very countable by even the average joe.

 

[EMS-TC02_Phantom]

Nothing would really change. It's kinda up to the OP to prove that Sento at that point was somehow specifically referring to Toei multiverse as opposed to just KR one as that's where Sento is housed under

Even if you want to bring the entirety of Toei into the table, that'd just mean that the size of entire Toei multiverse is even stupid bigger because it contains KR multiverse within it which is already 2-B on its own

 

[Antvasima]

Akreious is correct.

 

[LinkSlayerLvX]

Nothing would really change. It's kinda up to the OP to prove that Sento at that point was somehow specifically referring to Toei multiverse as opposed to just KR one as that's where Sento is housed under
Even if you want to bring the entirety of Toei into the table, that'd just mean that the size of entire Toei multiverse is even stupid bigger because it contains KR multiverse within it which is already 2-B on its own

Yep, that's my meaning :3

 

[Jasonsith]

So touching the whole Toeiverse would potentially be Tier 2-A or even Tier 1s since Toei actually touches Digimo which reaches High 1-C?

 

[Akreious]

That can possibly be a topic for another day since it doesn't really change anything for Riders or Sentai, but for the purposes of this thread, Zi-O Oma Form stays as 2-B?

 

[Mr.Cinos15]

Sorry for derailing, but how many verses does the complete Toeiverse contain?

 

[MagiSinbad]

Sorry for derailing, but how many verses does the complete Toeiverse contain?

If you mean Tokusatsu Heroes verses alone. Then here's a list

if you mean everything Toei ever produced then here's Toei Animation verses list