Ah yes, attack the guy who spams Time Stop! That sure will land hits!
How long is the recharge of the world again?
Idk what that is but if its not effecting power nulling concept type 2 then it won't do much here
0 in Awakened. There was never a recharge time to begin with.
I'm asking for proof of this effecting natural abilities Arkenis, is that so hard to ask?
Wdym natural abilities?
Do those still work with Low-Godly restricted? 'cause those sound like they, in practice, either are or pretty much equate to low-godly or higher regen.
Sick's regeneration comes from his existence and his immo comes from his existence so I'm not sure what Yung's accepting but he did say we'd presume the abilities work just without the concept and low godly. Andy's immo 8 comes from his soul, and his low godly also comes from his.
Like, ****** using a flamethrower. That kind of natural.
I think there's some confusion. Andy isn't gonna use his power null on Shalltear, he power nulls the rule of death, thats all.
Can that guy be beaten in any way outside of using a conceptual ability?
He'd need to freeze his soul as well since he can simply move his soul to move his body. There's also the very likely chance that Andy will have cut parts off his body to try and attack like that and if there's like a finger somewhere or some blood he can just regen from there.
Uh.... how? Wouldn't the ice restrict him from moving the body with the soul? It freezes the whole body and all.
Shalltear is actually also likely to use it against unknowns
Well looking at the freeze ability for Dio, he's removing the heat from one's body to do this, which would result in their death so that wouldn't work with Andy, his negation would negate this and he'd regenerate from it. And for the soul thing if he just moves the body it'll break like and that will allow him to regenerate as well.
If he turns him into a zombie that's a form of death so that wouldn't work. And Andy has another soul/mind named Victor who can come out given the card on his head is removed. Shalltear's stuff just seems similar to Dio's here as well so he can do the same for her. And then there's the fact that his soul is still unhindered by this (Unless they mind hax souls too)
Someone literally survived so...
Uh, that really depends on if they can deal with the hypnosis. Which they can't, Shalltear's hypnosis kills jack shit as shown by such characters as Brain Unglaus being alive still.
Survived how? And I am talking about hypothermia leading to death, Andy's negation negates all things leading to his death essentially, so having all the heat drained from his body would cause this.
The hypnosis can just be dealt with them switching whose in control, if she can hypnotize both souls/minds then thats fine but that's the counter Andy can do here. And Idk why you bring up the hypnosis not killing, that doesn't matter here.
by being chad
okay so Shalltear just does it again, there isn't really a limit to how many she can put under her control
Shalltear is undead Arkenis, will cancer kill a Zombie?
No this just doesn't sound likely, after the first time they'll have realized her looking into their eyes is how she's doing it and will destroy their eyes to counter this and halt the regeneration. Its not the first time they've hurt themselves to counter one's ability
That doesn't answer the question. And her body functions right? her eyes are working ? There are thousands of diseases, Sick, the guy who governs over sickness will have applied some sickness that targets the body itself, say a flesh eating disease, or a bacterial disease.
Okay so Shalltear sees the eyes change and just does it again immediately. It's thought-based, and Shalltear has used it, occasionally even as an opening move, in literally every fight she's had against unknowns, and if she's being pressured as you're describing(which I doubt) she'd be more inclined to mindfuck Sick and have him A. Turn off his disease shit, and B. take out Andy.
Spoiler alert, diseases don't work all to well in a corpse unless you have proof of them doing these things, or is this one of those things where everybody and their mom resists it?
Doesn't really matter if Andy and his double and Sick are puppets, does it?
What? She has to look them in the eyes, if they have no eyes she can't do it.
Nah I guess it wouldn't work on her then.
Wdym?
So they have a thought-based way to destroy their eyes before Shalltear notices their eye color change? Plus she could always use the elephant in the room(Sick) to box Andy and keep him very busy and hampered to try and avoid Shalltear bodying both personalities
Flesh-eating I can see maybe working, the rest not so much, especially since Shalltear can just like, regen through the flesh-eating stuff
Same Mind Control we've been discussing
How is her having to look into their eyes thought based? And since her resurrection is a one time use it won't matter after that.
She'll still be in a weakened state having to always regenerate her flesh back.
My whole thing is that she needs to look them in the eyes, has to target both their souls and minds to stop them here. She can't do that then this doesn't matter to them. And Andy can split his soul into different clones of himself as well.
She's already looking at them in the first place Arkenis, also the DIO point
I mean unless she's like, losing limbs and shit it'll be fine, Andy does Soul Damage anyway so it's not like she's taking more hits for her regen
Once again, the DIO point, and if Andy is just constantly being swarmed by Sick while he can't ****** see unless he wants Shalltear to make him lose more of his backups and can't keep a solid thing going for more then a few seconds because of the other vampire in the house, we start to see a losing battle.
SBA range is 4km, she has nothing on her page saying her eyesight is that precise to look directly into their eyes from that far.
Shalltear is A. Really ****** Fast in movement speed
I don't think it'll matter, Andy's range with his soul is stellar, I didn't add it but he's got interplanetary range with the soul attacks that home in too. All he needs is that first and she's sealed, same with Dio. I just read the Dio part 3 fight and Dio spams time stop but he doesn't instantly do it after the five seconds are up, Andy can simply do his sealing in that brief timeframe.
Or he and Sick can be puppets in that time frame if he does spam the Sealing and not literally anything else.
That just won't happen, she has to get in close, in the time it takes her to get close enough, Andy will have already fired off his soul or tried sealing her and Dio. And he doesn't need to spam it, its something he does specifically to stop powerful characters, Shalltear fits that here.
So now Andy does it in a thought-based matter and to start of over 50% of his fights, and Sick has passive Information Analysis and can talk fast enough for DIO literally thinking(literally over 50% of the time he's time stopped) to not go off?
No one said its thought based, it can just cover a greater distance than Shall can move. And its not in over 50% fights, in his newest key its the first ability he does against strong opponents. And Sick knows about Andy's ability, its not info analysis, he got it used on him actually. There's also a 2 minute prep time in the op.
Where is this even stated in the profile?
Well you see obviously you didn't look hard enough because it's right on the profile in the speed section
It's literally the Supersonic calc for Overlord lol, just look at Sebas' profile
All right mate, I'm gonna hit you with some solid ass math!
And who Said that was also prior knowledge? Cause like, if it is Andy and Sick are ten more shades of ****** then they are already, and what's saying Andy even listens to this ****** dude in the first place assuming there isn't prior knowledge
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Sidy: Soul attacks bypassing the ridiculous regen of DIO+being unkillable+Sealing that Andy will supposedly start with? I guess?
You're not understanding, Sick already knows about Andy's abilities, he's fought him before and Andy had already sealed Sick before this.
The combat speed of that faster character is assumed to be equalized to the combat speed of the slower character. Every other speed the faster character has is reduced by the same multiplier. This includes the speed of any attacks, projectiles, reactions, perception, flight etc.
Okay how does she resist sealing? Is it soul based sealing?
Because 9/10 heroes and villains are dysfunctional together in media? I don't read Undead Unluck, as you can probably tell
For Speed Equal, how the hell does it work for stat equal matches? The same way?
Pretty sure it's everything sealing, shit's stupid hard to get out of because of that
