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He uses it numerous times throughout the show if those people have no use to him. The only reason why he didn't do it to the Pines family was because he needed them to achieve his goals.Udlmaster said:
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Yukari VS Bill
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He uses it numerous times throughout the show if those people have no use to him. The only reason why he didn't do it to the Pines family was because he needed them to achieve his goals.
show proofs
show proofs
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Also, PIS can likely explain that away. Yes, PIS can't be used to dismiss everything, but when it's so obvious that it's happening, it can work.
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@Creeplord
...you do realize that Yukari sleeps on a daily basis, right? Of course Bill could put her to sleep.
...you do realize that Yukari sleeps on a daily basis, right? Of course Bill could put her to sleep.
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Voting Yukari FRA
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she sleeps =/= she can be affected by sleep manip that only affects physical brainsSadistic Sleuth said:
As I say, show me a proof that Bill's mindhax works on incorporeal minds
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Uhhhh, what in tarnation, EVERYONE sleeps on a daily basis, this isn't even an argument.
You sleep on a daily basis, I sleep on a daily basis, the amount of sleep she has on the DOWNTIME doesn't negate the fact that she has infinite stamina and wouldn't get naturally tired.
You sleep on a daily basis, I sleep on a daily basis, the amount of sleep she has on the DOWNTIME doesn't negate the fact that she has infinite stamina and wouldn't get naturally tired.
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Of course my friend. PIS explains everythingUnoriginal Memes said:
Bill being expulsed from the third dimension? PIS, for sure
Bill is defeated by the Pines? PIS, he's such powerful that a house stomped him
Mabel and Dipper being more faster than Bill? Pfff clearly a PIS, we know that Bill is the most faster characer in fiction
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@Udl Bill's sleep hax doesn't make someone tired. It just puts them into a sleep, regardless of stamina
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He uses it numerous times throughout the show if those people have no use to him. The only reason why he didn't do it to the Pines family was because he needed them to achieve his goals.
show proofs
I'm on mobile so I can't link. Literally just search up "Best of Bill Cipher" on YouTube and click the second video.
show proofs
I'm on mobile so I can't link. Literally just search up "Best of Bill Cipher" on YouTube and click the second video.
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I saw that video so many times. That's why I know you use PIS to wank Bill and hide his evident flaws
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How Bill can sleep someone who doesn't have a brain x3??Sadistic Sleuth said:
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Limitless stamina actually does give you resistance to sleep hax.Sadistic Sleuth said:
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It's not wanking. It's called common sense, which most people should have.Creeplord said:
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Guys the issue isn't stamina
The issue is that unless proven otherwise, mindhax and sleephax only affects things on a biological level and not on an incorporeal level. If Bill's mindhax hasn't shown to be able to affect beings with no physical brain it ain't gonna work here.
The issue is that unless proven otherwise, mindhax and sleephax only affects things on a biological level and not on an incorporeal level. If Bill's mindhax hasn't shown to be able to affect beings with no physical brain it ain't gonna work here.
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It's not wanking. It's called common sense, which most people should have.
Common sense shows me that Bill has a lot of flaws that you're still ignoring
Common sense shows me that Bill has a lot of flaws that you're still ignoring
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And when did this turn into whether Bill transmutes in character? It's pretty evident (At least to most people here) that Bill uses it.
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Of course, but nobody even show something that prove this,perhaps because it doesn't existsSaikou The Lewd King said:
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@Shadow I just finished reading the Sleep Manipulation page and the Stamina page.
Unless you have something to back that up, stop going with the side that puts Bill at the disadvantage.
Unless you have something to back that up, stop going with the side that puts Bill at the disadvantage.
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>Wank Bill
Bill is easily the most downplayed character on the site with all the people talking about how he doesn't use hax.
Bill is easily the most downplayed character on the site with all the people talking about how he doesn't use hax.
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Toxic Touhou debating base + Anti-Bill squad...
Yeah, I regret saying Bill wins now.
Yeah, I regret saying Bill wins now.
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Yukari doesn't even have Infinite stamina. Her stamina is "Superhuman, seemingly limitless".
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Yukari not having a brain is utter bullshit. Sure her consciousness persists beyond her body but you'd have to be really kidding yourself if you're saying she literally lacks the organ that the skull protects.
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"This ability denotes practically infinite stamina and may support a resistance to certain types of Sleep Manipulation."
Keyword: May
Unless Yukari has displayed resistances, I don't think so. Hell, she doesn't even have type 3 sustance
Keyword: May
Unless Yukari has displayed resistances, I don't think so. Hell, she doesn't even have type 3 sustance
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^Unoriginal Memes said:
Inb4 "Limitless = Infinite"
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No man, that's not the issueSadistic Sleuth said:
The issue here it's that you have to prove that Bill can affect incorporeal minds with his mindhax, because if not he has a clarly disadvantage against Yukari
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@CreeplordThe real cal howard said:
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@Cal
Youkai are outright stated to not have physical brains. They don't even have blood.
Youkai are outright stated to not have physical brains. They don't even have blood.
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Bill Cipher's sleep manipulation is nothing special though. He just snapped his fingers and made Mabel fall asleep. It's not like Darkrai who can sleephax 4D beings with limitless stamina like Dialga and Palkia.
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@Shadow But Yukari isn't 4D. And Seemingly doesn't mean that she definently has it
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I'm pretty sure that just means she's done everything thing effortlessly and we've never seen her get tired.
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"Humans are the only ones who need simple chemical thought centers such as brains."The real cal howard said:
-Remilia Scarlet, she's a Youkai ;c
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Now you're strawmanning, I never said Yukari was 4D. All I did was give an example of someone with very potent sleep hax.
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Sure, Yukari may not have a brain and not need one either, but she has a consciousness. Bill can still incap her with sleep hax or mind hax.
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Okay what how is it that the universe exists to prove me wrong? There was such a small chance of that happening that the verse just so happened to lack organs. #calcanthavenicethings
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Thats not really how it worksSadistic Sleuth said:
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>Mindhax
Except for the fact that Yukari resists it?
Except for the fact that Yukari resists it?
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