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ShadowWarrior1999 said:
If TQD resists type 2 conceptual manipulation then an inferior type of conceptual manipulation won't do anything.
I agree
 
ZacharyGrossman273 said:
Saikou The Lewd King said:
Unless the Deviless lacks a concept, conceptual manip should still be able to affect her.
She resists conceptual manipulation but doesen't "lack" a concept, her nonexistence is type 1
Only The One from Platonism Philosophy lack concept on any system so the type 2 definition is wrong. This definition is giving Tier 0's power to lower tier.
 
Saikou The Lewd King said:
Unless the Deviless lacks a concept, conceptual manip should still be able to affect her.
She also resists conceptual manip as well, I thought it was gonna be a cool match before the combo ruined it
 
Wait, why does she have Type 2 Concept manip?

The way it's described, it's Type 3 at best, as people have said many times:

"this never existed to begin with and will never be allowed to exist", the description from the page is that it stopped working after the destruction of Math.

So, it's not Type 2.
 
Setsuna tenma said:
Demons are unnafected by other demons literally "revoking" the laws of nature as if they were political laws
Okay, so Law Manipulation.

That's all so far.

And even then, it could just be "Muh power greater, so neg weaker powers"
 
I don't have to make a CRT, Zach, you of all people know I can ask for scans and proof of the claims on a profile without forcing a CRT.

You of all people know this, you've done it on nearly every World of Darkness thread that's existed.
 
Udlmaster said:
That just sounds like weaker powers not affecting stronger beings, not resistances.
Nah, cuz even Salt could not wipe them out of existence. Fallen London has some of what you are describing going on, on that more political style power can make you immune to the powers of those with less power than you, but this is not a case of that
 
That is pretty self evident by glancing at the Salt profile and seeing that he is one of the most powerful beings in the verse both stats and political wise
 
That could just seem the Silent Deviless is on a higher political standing, without evidence, it's just weaker powers not working on stronger beings.
 
No, the puppet poster child of Hell does not have more political standing than one of the supreme judgements, the concept of time itself, and one of the most powerful beings in the verse
 
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