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What? since when did tiers scale to soul resistance, I am gettign more and more confused, every time bleach and its RC has been argued tier has had nothing to do with it just like with most soul hax.Firephoenixearl said:
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Yhwach vs Edelweiss Redux : Rise of the Feminist
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no , that is not how it work Fire .Her resistance need to scale to the potency of yhwach's soul manip . Ap have nothing to do with it .
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Tiers, don't but the things they use to fight (their swords) are their souls. The souls are the ones tanking most of the attacks. If they become 5-B it would scale to their soul. Though it only works on things like reiatsu crush and other things like that, so attack on the soul. They're still just as weak to soul sucking and other stuff like that.
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That depends, I dont think soul crush literally destroys the soul, else they would literally be the same as quincy. But I am not as big an expert in bleach as the others so maybe I am wrong there.
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Besides the Calc you posted is like 600+ Zettaton?
Yhwach scales a little above 1 Yottaton.
Yhwach scales a little above 1 Yottaton.
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What are the potency of those attacks translated to soul hax ? how many souls did they affect or what resistance to soul hax did they overcome with it ?
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Where even is that calc? I can't find it.Sigurd Snake in The Eye said:
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Earl's right for once here. Given its literally crushing the soul, the soul having notable durability negs RC.
That said I'm rooting for Yhwach here. Never thought I'd say that.
That said I'm rooting for Yhwach here. Never thought I'd say that.
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How? We already decided Yhwach AP stomps if RC is unrestricted and gets stomped if it is.The real cal howard said:
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It doesn't have a calc, it's pretty much just his absorption. I've made a thread a few months back about it giving him the AP of those he absorbed and it ended up at that.
https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/3210961
As for the thread I still don't see how Yhwach doesn't literally just blow her up via thought. Since even you admit her passives aren't really conclusive.
https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/3210961
As for the thread I still don't see how Yhwach doesn't literally just blow her up via thought. Since even you admit her passives aren't really conclusive.
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I see. Even then, Edelweiss would scale significantly above the 5-B+ calc. Not to mention even at 600Zettatons it ain't feeling anything from the soul crush. The gap is less than 2x, it would never insta 1 shot.
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600 Zetta isn't 5-B+, and that isn't how it works. He also scales above that unquantifiably and Ichigo scales even higher...
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Wdym?Sigurd Snake in The Eye said:
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And RC isn't AP anyway . What potency is the soul manip Edel resisted ? how many souls could the hax she resisted manipulate or what resistance did it bypassed ?
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Ultra wank again...
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Oblivion Of The Endless said:
@Spooky
Wot?
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Edel not being reiatsu crushed.
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That's when the 5-B gets accepted (if it does) in the future. Not now.SpookyShadow said:
Even cal agreed with me ffs. CAL! That's like...a party worthy feat.
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Reiatsu crush =/= AP.
Also I doubt it will be accepted, but good luck.
Also I doubt it will be accepted, but good luck.
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Currently it was "rejected"(?) for lack of proof that it's a full reflection. Maybe once the ability is used again or if the novel gets translated it'll provide more context on whether it's a full reflection or not.SpookyShadow said:
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Yhwach should also be getting type 5 immortality but not sure if that effects this match.
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It doesn't.
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Anyway this is the rest of the plot
As soon as he tried to make a step more towards the mountain, a sudden gust of wind hit him---no, it wasn't wind, it was an invisible pressure, as if the sky came crashing down on top of him. As if something he couldn't perceive was holding him down. He didn't understand it at first, but--
Ikki Kurogane: You already understand.
A young boy in a school uniform appeared from what seemed like thin air. Appalled at such sight he replied
Yhwach: Understand what?
Ikki Kurogane: That you cannot win, your soul already understands that.
Yhwach: Against who?
Edelweiss: Against me.
There Yhwach saw her, an amazing figure. A perfect body, a perfect stance. She stood there in front of him completely defenseless, yet somehow it seemed like she had no oppening.
Yhwach: Who the hell is this woman?
He couldn't understand it, her presence was extraordinary---no, that was not why Yhwach was at such dismay. This girl and the boy who seemigly appeared out of thin air.
He had not seen any of them coming
Those 2, no matter how many futures he saw, no matter how far into the future, they did not exist. Who where these people? Why do they not exist in his futures?
Edelweiss: I am unsure what your intentions are with Stella Vermillio who is up that mountain. But if you dare to lay a finger on her, i will make sure your life ends that very moment.
Yhwach: Agh! YOU! Who do you think you are talking like that? While not in a combat stance you dare say you will end my life?
Edelweiss: I am sorry. I do not intend to strike a stance against you, because if it's you, i can beat you without lifting a finger.
Yhwach: Without lifting a finger.
Edelweiss: Yes, your life is just that insignificant.
Unable to stand up to this Yhwach gave up. He knew this woman...she was unlike anything else. If there were humans and Gods, she would be the devil. A being beyond the realm of logic.
Ikki Kurogane: A Desperado
As soon as he tried to make a step more towards the mountain, a sudden gust of wind hit him---no, it wasn't wind, it was an invisible pressure, as if the sky came crashing down on top of him. As if something he couldn't perceive was holding him down. He didn't understand it at first, but--
Ikki Kurogane: You already understand.
A young boy in a school uniform appeared from what seemed like thin air. Appalled at such sight he replied
Yhwach: Understand what?
Ikki Kurogane: That you cannot win, your soul already understands that.
Yhwach: Against who?
Edelweiss: Against me.
There Yhwach saw her, an amazing figure. A perfect body, a perfect stance. She stood there in front of him completely defenseless, yet somehow it seemed like she had no oppening.
Yhwach: Who the hell is this woman?
He couldn't understand it, her presence was extraordinary---no, that was not why Yhwach was at such dismay. This girl and the boy who seemigly appeared out of thin air.
He had not seen any of them coming
Those 2, no matter how many futures he saw, no matter how far into the future, they did not exist. Who where these people? Why do they not exist in his futures?
Edelweiss: I am unsure what your intentions are with Stella Vermillio who is up that mountain. But if you dare to lay a finger on her, i will make sure your life ends that very moment.
Yhwach: Agh! YOU! Who do you think you are talking like that? While not in a combat stance you dare say you will end my life?
Edelweiss: I am sorry. I do not intend to strike a stance against you, because if it's you, i can beat you without lifting a finger.
Yhwach: Without lifting a finger.
Edelweiss: Yes, your life is just that insignificant.
Unable to stand up to this Yhwach gave up. He knew this woman...she was unlike anything else. If there were humans and Gods, she would be the devil. A being beyond the realm of logic.
Ikki Kurogane: A Desperado
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Yhwach giving up
Lol
Lol
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Nah , the real scenario is Yhwach saying : "Enough of this" and use RC
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^This
This is written nothing like this fight would be
This is written nothing like this fight would be
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Not even talking about how Yhwach can use The V to imagine her dead, erase her from existence with Zanka no Tachi et cetera et cetera
Can she even interact with Non-Corporeal man?
Can she even interact with Non-Corporeal man?
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None of those will work because of passives but ok.SpookyShadow said:
Unless you're saying yhwach is more abstract than fate or causality yes she can.
Anyway imma call someone to close this.
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Yeah please.
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Exactly :/Naeblis495 said:
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