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Yeah this is happening. Boundless vs Boundless (Sans vs Goku)

You would get it if you read sans profile
Hmm
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So Goku's Entire Speed stat is equalized to Sans attack speed

And Sans reaction speed is a degree higher than his own Attack Speed
And of course San's is not affected by Speed equal due to being the slower character

So yeah it checks out
Sans' would have the advantage in reaction speed
So perceiving attacks is not gonna be a concern for him...... just if he can actually keep up/dodge/counter them

And Sans attack speed is equal to goku reaction speed so Goku wont have difficulties reacting to san's attacks either (well except surprise attacks)

So as I see it
Sans can see all of Goku's attacks and with 6x Perception Speed he has a decent amount of time to dodge plan away around Ki attacks with his only isse being what that plan even is being ke cant stop it from happening nor dodge the AoE so he would have to be quick and kill Goku because once an AoE gets out then that sis GG for Sans

Goku can likely dodge most of Sans attack fairly speaking. I mean Sans attacks are just as fast as goku is. And if goku at least uses Kioken (which may or may not be restricted) than he'll get speed amps necessary to outpace Sans and clap him. Sans attacks are dangerous thou as they have Soul Attacking properties and do alot of Soul Damage which Goku doesnt resist at all (apart from erasure I guess). But Given sans like using sneak attacks I say sans can get a few hits in quite fairly which is what he needs in all honesty. Unless Goku decides to use Kioken quickly then Sans could get it over goku in all honesty

As far as I see it
Both have veritable ways to win
Neutral as of now
And either situation is plausible to occur
 
Hmm
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So Goku's Entire Speed stat is equalized to Sans attack speed

And Sans reaction speed is a degree higher than his own Attack Speed
And of course San's is not affected by Speed equal due to being the slower character

So yeah it checks out
Sans' would have the advantage in reaction speed
So perceiving attacks is not gonna be a concern for him...... just if he can actually keep up/dodge/counter them

And Sans attack speed is equal to goku reaction speed so Goku wont have difficulties reacting to san's attacks either (well except surprise attacks)

So as I see it
Sans can see all of Goku's attacks and with 6x Perception Speed he has a decent amount of time to dodge plan away around Ki attacks with his only isse being what that plan even is being ke cant stop it from happening nor dodge the AoE so he would have to be quick and kill Goku because once an AoE gets out then that sis GG for Sans

Goku can likely dodge most of Sans attack fairly speaking. I mean Sans attacks are just as fast as goku is. And if goku at least uses Kioken (which may or may not be restricted) than he'll get speed amps necessary to outpace Sans and clap him. Sans attacks are dangerous thou as they have Soul Attacking properties and do alot of Soul Damage which Goku doesnt resist at all (apart from erasure I guess). But Given sans like using sneak attacks I say sans can get a few hits in quite fairly which is what he needs in all honesty. Unless Goku decides to use Kioken quickly then Sans could get it over goku in all honesty

As far as I see it
Both have veritable ways to win
Neutral as of now
And either situation is plausible to occur
Me when time stop alao gaster blasters are faster than sans
 
Me when time stop alao gaster blasters are faster than sans
If Sans uses that and presumable Goku manages to dodge the first shot, or IT outta range, or Block it with Ki Barrier or just straight up tank it and survive then Goku is immediately gonna go for Kioken to be faster than Gaster Blaster
 
If Sans uses that and presumable Goku manages to dodge the first shot, or IT outta range, or Block it with Ki Barrier or just straight up tank it and survive then Goku is immediately gonna go for Kioken to be faster than Gaster Blaster
Since gaster blasters are faster goku wont have time to get out off the blast zone before his soul is ******. Can Ki barrier stop intagible attacks?
 
Since gaster blasters are faster goku wont have time to get out off the blast zone before his soul is ******.
Unless he's using IT
Since Sans first move is to Go for Bones first then end the Combo with Gaster Blasters
While Sans is using Bones Goku has a semblance of Time to IT or Kioken before Gaster Blast arrive
Can Ki barrier stop intagible attacks?
Goku has NPI with Ki so yeah
 
Unless he's using IT
Since Sans first move is to Go for Bones first then end the Combo with Gaster Blasters
While Sans is using Bones Goku has a semblance of Time to IT or Kioken before Gaster Blast arrive
Really controversial opinion but Fair. This can be closed
 
Really controversial opinion but Fair. This can be closed
What do you expect from a character that has literally only one fight scene in his entire series and literally goes for the same first move every time and even he himself is aware of it :ROFLMAO:
 
Goku is never willing to win/kill Mr. Satan nor has he ever thought him personally
SBA makes goku want to win/kill so put SBA Goku against Mr. Satan and he DEAD
"In character, but will attempt to win the battle. Characters will not give up of their own accord. That means a character that is uninterested or sees no chance of winning won't simply leave and characters wouldn't simply become friends with each other. This doesn't prevent a character being made to give up, because the other character manipulates them via things like, for example, mind control, fear inducement, psychological tricks or superhuman charisma.
Each character will view their opponents as enemies, who they have to assume wish to cause them severe harm such that losing could have any range of dire consequences. The characters will assume their opponents have not been forced into battle. They are assumed to have decided from free will to fight and are not excused by a just cause, difficult times or otherwise exonerating circumstances. Furthermore, the situation is assumed one where the opponents are not protected by social norms or consequences, such as being a civilian protected by law."
goku is in character, but he still wants to win, if goku doesn't kill in character, he will also not try here, goku in character doesn't go any far with people extremely weaker than him, there is no reason to overdo it against someone trillions of times weaker than you, goku would likely lower his guard and go for incap neck chop just like he did with King chappa, which would lead him to lose since sans in character doesn't **** around in a fight in character

OH JOY
I said Z and onward
And this man gave me a OG DB example
same character, OG DB goku is the exact same character, only in different points in life

Because SBA
HE WANTS TO WIN/KILL THATS WHY HE WOULD TRY
he is IN CHARACTER so stop putting "kill", goku doesn't go that route in character unless he has personal beef with the one he is fighting, and wanting to win=/=going all out against someone massively weaker than you, we know how he does it in character against weaker opponents, he tries to knock them out, which would lead to his soul getting destroyed here

Again SBA
Plus Goku knows from personal experience not to underestimate opponents as they may have tricky abilities. The T.O.P. especially proved that time and time again. Sans being a living skeleton would give goku initiative to not take him lightly
when has goku showed this much insight? in dragon ball super super hero he shows that he mostly fights like a brute, aka jsut goes for it without putting much thought into it
 
What do you expect from a character that has literally only one fight scene in his entire series and literally goes for the same first move every time and even he himself is aware of it :ROFLMAO:
Huh always wondered why people never use their strongest attacks first
 
"In character, but will attempt to win the battle. Characters will not give up of their own accord. That means a character that is uninterested or sees no chance of winning won't simply leave and characters wouldn't simply become friends with each other. This doesn't prevent a character being made to give up, because the other character manipulates them via things like, for example, mind control, fear inducement, psychological tricks or superhuman charisma.
Each character will view their opponents as enemies, who they have to assume wish to cause them severe harm such that losing could have any range of dire consequences. The characters will assume their opponents have not been forced into battle. They are assumed to have decided from free will to fight and are not excused by a just cause, difficult times or otherwise exonerating circumstances. Furthermore, the situation is assumed one where the opponents are not protected by social norms or consequences, such as being a civilian protected by law."
goku is in character, but he still wants to win, if goku doesn't kill in character, he will also not try here, goku in character doesn't go any far with people extremely weaker than him, there is no reason to overdo it against someone trillions of times weaker than you, goku would likely lower his guard and go for incap neck chop just like he did with King chappa, which would lead him to lose since sans in character doesn't **** around in a fight in character


same character, OG DB goku is the exact same character, only in different points in life


he is IN CHARACTER so stop putting "kill", goku doesn't go that route in character unless he has personal beef with the one he is fighting, and wanting to win=/=going all out against someone massively weaker than you, we know how he does it in character against weaker opponents, he tries to knock them out, which would lead to his soul getting destroyed here


when has goku showed this much insight? in dragon ball super super hero he shows that he mostly fights like a brute, aka jsut goes for it without putting much thought into it
WAY TOO MUCH LOL
Anyways I have to get back to work now
My lunch break is up
Assuming this thread is up and open by then Ill respond (If Im not busy or too lazy hehe :3)

He is probably too lazy to change it up
Sounds like a skill issue
 
Not that this is a point, since we can basically remove this match and make a new thread considering it was added just with Undertale supporters.
The match was a remake of a previous one is the reason. Goku fans just let go
 
If there's only Undertale supporters that voted then its all the reason to remove the match
it isn't, this is exactly why grace period exists, to give time to other people to comment, if they didn't? their lost, they had the chance, if they didn't did anything when they were given a chance, then they can't come now and start to banter when the match is already over by weeks ago
 
it isn't, this is exactly why grace period exists, to give time to other people to comment, if they didn't? their lost, they had the chance, if they didn't did anything when they were given a chance, then they can't come now and start to banter when the match is already over by weeks ago
Doesn't mean it can't get removed afterward for the one-sided support
 
you or any other supporter from the other side not saying anything is not a problem with the match up for it to be removed
That's a poor way of framing it. It doesn't void the fact that any added match with inadequate debate has valid reason to be removed (source: basically the entire versus thread removal requests thread)
 
That's a poor way of framing it. It doesn't void the fact that any added match with inadequate debate has valid reason to be removed (source: basically the entire versus thread removal requests thread)
that is a whole different problem then what you just said earlier
 
y'all realize that this is Goku Black arc Base Goku here right

Goku doesn't dodge literally everything in character, and neither does he go for the kill instantly. He's probably gonna run towards Sans and either block or dodge anything in his way, and anything he attempts to block will kill him pretty much instantly

if this were UI Goku things would be different but then he'd have to get past Sans's TK, but Goku's instincts might warn him that he's going to die and he'll go for the kill then, but unfortunately Goku doesn't have that luxury in this fight
 
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