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I been out of the wiki for a year lolIt’s been like that for at least a year
HmmYou would get it if you read sans profile
Me when time stop alao gaster blasters are faster than sansHmm
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So Goku's Entire Speed stat is equalized to Sans attack speed
And Sans reaction speed is a degree higher than his own Attack Speed
And of course San's is not affected by Speed equal due to being the slower character
So yeah it checks out
Sans' would have the advantage in reaction speed
So perceiving attacks is not gonna be a concern for him...... just if he can actually keep up/dodge/counter them
And Sans attack speed is equal to goku reaction speed so Goku wont have difficulties reacting to san's attacks either (well except surprise attacks)
So as I see it
Sans can see all of Goku's attacks and with 6x Perception Speed he has a decent amount of time to dodge plan away around Ki attacks with his only isse being what that plan even is being ke cant stop it from happening nor dodge the AoE so he would have to be quick and kill Goku because once an AoE gets out then that sis GG for Sans
Goku can likely dodge most of Sans attack fairly speaking. I mean Sans attacks are just as fast as goku is. And if goku at least uses Kioken (which may or may not be restricted) than he'll get speed amps necessary to outpace Sans and clap him. Sans attacks are dangerous thou as they have Soul Attacking properties and do alot of Soul Damage which Goku doesnt resist at all (apart from erasure I guess). But Given sans like using sneak attacks I say sans can get a few hits in quite fairly which is what he needs in all honesty. Unless Goku decides to use Kioken quickly then Sans could get it over goku in all honesty
As far as I see it
Both have veritable ways to win
Neutral as of now
And either situation is plausible to occur
If Sans uses that and presumable Goku manages to dodge the first shot, or IT outta range, or Block it with Ki Barrier or just straight up tank it and survive then Goku is immediately gonna go for Kioken to be faster than Gaster BlasterMe when time stop alao gaster blasters are faster than sans
Since gaster blasters are faster goku wont have time to get out off the blast zone before his soul is ******. Can Ki barrier stop intagible attacks?If Sans uses that and presumable Goku manages to dodge the first shot, or IT outta range, or Block it with Ki Barrier or just straight up tank it and survive then Goku is immediately gonna go for Kioken to be faster than Gaster Blaster
not time stop, he uses teleportationVery wrong as he used it the entirety of his second phase and since sans is a genius like goku he will adapt and use his abilities.
Unless he's using ITSince gaster blasters are faster goku wont have time to get out off the blast zone before his soul is ******.
Goku has NPI with Ki so yeahCan Ki barrier stop intagible attacks?
Really controversial opinion but Fair. This can be closedUnless he's using IT
Since Sans first move is to Go for Bones first then end the Combo with Gaster Blasters
While Sans is using Bones Goku has a semblance of Time to IT or Kioken before Gaster Blast arrive
What do you expect from a character that has literally only one fight scene in his entire series and literally goes for the same first move every time and even he himself is aware of itReally controversial opinion but Fair. This can be closed
"In character, but will attempt to win the battle. Characters will not give up of their own accord. That means a character that is uninterested or sees no chance of winning won't simply leave and characters wouldn't simply become friends with each other. This doesn't prevent a character being made to give up, because the other character manipulates them via things like, for example, mind control, fear inducement, psychological tricks or superhuman charisma.Goku is never willing to win/kill Mr. Satan nor has he ever thought him personally
SBA makes goku want to win/kill so put SBA Goku against Mr. Satan and he DEAD
same character, OG DB goku is the exact same character, only in different points in lifeOH JOY
I said Z and onward
And this man gave me a OG DB example
he is IN CHARACTER so stop putting "kill", goku doesn't go that route in character unless he has personal beef with the one he is fighting, and wanting to win=/=going all out against someone massively weaker than you, we know how he does it in character against weaker opponents, he tries to knock them out, which would lead to his soul getting destroyed hereBecause SBA
HE WANTS TO WIN/KILL THATS WHY HE WOULD TRY
when has goku showed this much insight? in dragon ball super super hero he shows that he mostly fights like a brute, aka jsut goes for it without putting much thought into itAgain SBA
Plus Goku knows from personal experience not to underestimate opponents as they may have tricky abilities. The T.O.P. especially proved that time and time again. Sans being a living skeleton would give goku initiative to not take him lightly
Huh always wondered why people never use their strongest attacks firstWhat do you expect from a character that has literally only one fight scene in his entire series and literally goes for the same first move every time and even he himself is aware of it
Huh always wondered why people never use their strongest attacks first
WAY TOO MUCH LOL"In character, but will attempt to win the battle. Characters will not give up of their own accord. That means a character that is uninterested or sees no chance of winning won't simply leave and characters wouldn't simply become friends with each other. This doesn't prevent a character being made to give up, because the other character manipulates them via things like, for example, mind control, fear inducement, psychological tricks or superhuman charisma.
Each character will view their opponents as enemies, who they have to assume wish to cause them severe harm such that losing could have any range of dire consequences. The characters will assume their opponents have not been forced into battle. They are assumed to have decided from free will to fight and are not excused by a just cause, difficult times or otherwise exonerating circumstances. Furthermore, the situation is assumed one where the opponents are not protected by social norms or consequences, such as being a civilian protected by law."
goku is in character, but he still wants to win, if goku doesn't kill in character, he will also not try here, goku in character doesn't go any far with people extremely weaker than him, there is no reason to overdo it against someone trillions of times weaker than you, goku would likely lower his guard and go for incap neck chop just like he did with King chappa, which would lead him to lose since sans in character doesn't **** around in a fight in character
same character, OG DB goku is the exact same character, only in different points in life
he is IN CHARACTER so stop putting "kill", goku doesn't go that route in character unless he has personal beef with the one he is fighting, and wanting to win=/=going all out against someone massively weaker than you, we know how he does it in character against weaker opponents, he tries to knock them out, which would lead to his soul getting destroyed here
when has goku showed this much insight? in dragon ball super super hero he shows that he mostly fights like a brute, aka jsut goes for it without putting much thought into it
He is probably too lazy to change it up
The match ended long time ago. Its added lolWAY TOO MUCH LOL
Anyways I have to get back to work now
My lunch break is up
Assuming this thread is up and open by then Ill respond (If Im not busy or too lazy hehe :3)
It is one. Sans is lazy bonesSounds like a skill issue
Hum, I disagre that they should be considered time stop, but sinse It's on hia profile... MehWrong the black screen = time stop. Look at the profile
Not that this is a point, since we can basically remove this match and make a new thread considering it was added just with Undertale supporters.The match ended long time ago. Its added lol
all other supporters had time to come, this is not a good reasonNot that this is a point, since we can basically remove this match and make a new thread considering it was added just with Undertale supporters.
If there's only Undertale supporters that voted then its all the reason to remove the matchall other supporters had time to come, this is not a good reason
it isn't, this is exactly why grace period exists, to give time to other people to comment, if they didn't? their lost, they had the chance, if they didn't did anything when they were given a chance, then they can't come now and start to banter when the match is already over by weeks agoIf there's only Undertale supporters that voted then its all the reason to remove the match
no reasson to disscus this here
Doesn't mean it can't get removed afterward for the one-sided supportit isn't, this is exactly why grace period exists, to give time to other people to comment, if they didn't? their lost, they had the chance, if they didn't did anything when they were given a chance, then they can't come now and start to banter when the match is already over by weeks ago
"one sided" is not a good reasoning, again you or any other supporter from the other side not saying anything is not a problem with the match up for it to be removedDoesn't mean it can't get removed afterward for the one-sided support
That's a poor way of framing it. It doesn't void the fact that any added match with inadequate debate has valid reason to be removed (source: basically the entire versus thread removal requests thread)you or any other supporter from the other side not saying anything is not a problem with the match up for it to be removed
that is a whole different problem then what you just said earlierThat's a poor way of framing it. It doesn't void the fact that any added match with inadequate debate has valid reason to be removed (source: basically the entire versus thread removal requests thread)
What I mentioned earlier is the inadequate debatethat is a whole different problem then what you just said earlier
all you mentioned was that "there was only undertale supporters here"What I mentioned earlier is the inadequate debate
It is affecting the soul,not the body, so those it doesn't matter muchHigher LS + Flight makes Tk kinda useless
but agree
Super man vs sans disgre but we have no point on disscussing ItIt is affecting the soul,not the body, so those it doesn't matter much
The CRT that would give Sans "ignores Ls", basically diedIt is affecting the soul,not the body, so those it doesn't matter much
I mean, it is on the profile, plus tk already ignores LsThe CRT that would give Sans "ignores Ls", basically died