Yami/Yugi/atem upgrade

[SomebodyData]

Interesting, perhaps you should ask the op about adding this to his op or make a new thread (Mainly because most of this thread was already talking about canonicity.) Don't forget to bring links too. (Though I have quite a lot doubts of what you are suggesting.)

I think I'll also assist in these changes, and a few more (Probably going to add Duel Terminal Canon variations of monsters, going to have to revise the current Yugioh pages [For example, most spells and traps don't actually have weight in actual battle, and Duel Terminal goes a step further and suggest that they may just be based of events that happened rather than actual abilities] and might have to change a lot of the newer pages.)

 

[Antvasima]

@SomebodyData Thank you for the help.

 

[SomebodyData]

Okay then, since Miles just got blocked, I guess we'll have to continue like before, (Still doing what I was planning to, but without his/her support I'll probably take longer.)

 

[Antvasima]

Okay.

 

[Saitamax]

are we really accepting victories in card games and using monsters who have power in the lore during card game duels whilst following rules of said card game as proof for tiers for yugioh characters

doesn't that seem completely absurd to everyone?

Jaden has a 2C tier for being in possesion of super polymerization card. this would suggest at any given point Jaden could whip out that card outside of a duel and blow up 12 universes. that's really silly and obviously untrue.

Yuya (pre-Zarc) has a star level rating for defeating Jack Atlas in a card game. in that same card game Yuya would have lost to 3 random fodder who interrupted the duel had Jack not willingly chose to use a card to save him.

these are the biggest examples i can think of, but theres other cases of yugioh characters being scaled off of beating someone in a card game, or being in possesion of a card that represents a monster with godlike powers in the lore.

 

[MagiSinbad]

As a YGO supporter, I argree with most of Saitamax's arguement.

The duelist cant be scailed through dueling in a cardgame duel. They must have some kind of specific feat like The monster in Duel Terminal lore. The duelist, most of them are still human and cant summon their monsters in the real world except in some certain condition, like the dimension in GX that allow people to summon their monster in physical form. Hell, i think we should downgrade them back to human level unless they have actually done something in YGO with the supernatural power like Yubel and Judai

Jaden has a 2C tier for being in possesion of super polymerization card. this would suggest at any given point Jaden could whip out that card outside of a duel and blow up 12 universes. that's really silly and obviously untrue.

It;s still a great feat for the super polymerization though. Yubel used it fused the 12 dimensions together. And currently, Judai and Yubel are one and the same. So yeah...

 

[SomebodyData]

Saitamax has a point.

@Magi, while I do know about the feat, I always found it weird how S Polymerization even has power (Considering spells and trap don't actually have any real power [As shown by season 5] and are likely just events [Read my earliest point of Duel Terminal])

@Vampire Anubis is non-canon as far as I know, but DSoD is actually pretty nice when it comes to anti-hax (If I remember correctly, Kaiba's new variation of duel disk has a minor degree of reality warping and a resistance to magic), though do they have any feats with the monsters?

Also, btw the Yugi page should probably just be shorten to Yami's (Key: Season 5 | With the Creator of Light) since 1 of the keys is non-canon and the two other are just irrelevant)

 

[SomebodyData]

Hmmm, is BBT canon? If it was, I have doubts since it would mean it was retconned (Since synchro dimension =/= fusion dimension as of ARC-V).

No? The Obelisk was the OCG/TCG variation (Ie the Black one), which doesn't have Infinite attack ability.

 

[SomebodyData]

Really? I can't say I remember that and the yugioh wiki disagrees as well.

Hmmm, I see. And did they mentioned him prior or after the movie?

ARC-V kinda does, it separates the main Yugioh landscape to four distinct universes, based on summoning methods.

As for your recent posts, it kinda makes it kinda sound that you're Mikoto. But here I'll try debunk it too.

- 5-B at base. How? Just how? Krillin had a thought of what 4th form Frieza would have been but is definitely not 4-C.

- 3-A - High 3-A, misinterpreting the context of dimension used on such a degree it is laughable.

- Kaiba being completely immune is true, but as shown by the last duel in the movie, it wasn't strong enough to repel the power of the Millienum Ring.

-Resistance to BFR via arguable (Though considering the context behind how the powers work, you can make a case here)

-Desintegration would count as resistance to magic.

Atem coming back is 99% PIS like Goku back in the second Broly movie.

 

[Dark649]

I'm not that sure about the 3-A scalings because Bakura, Dartz and all the villains scaled to him are going to be 3-A by these statements.

 

[SomebodyData]

Considering the lack of confirmed size for the dimension, it would have to be unqualifiable. (Also, what statements are we talking about?)

 

[Antvasima]

Vampirefanboy seems to be Mikoto making yet another sockpuppet again...

 

[Dark649]

How does Dartz scale from Aigami?

Dartz has similar statements of infinite dimensional power.

 

[SomebodyData]

K.

Well, I'm guessing that since its pretty obvious that this won't go any further, I think I should make a thread on my thoughts on the yugioh verse stats and see the opinions of the fans who are definitely not a sock. (I'll start with how Yugi's profile should be replaced by one of Atem's, and then maybe make one for Yugi.)

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

So... Couldn't we just make a key for DSoD ( Dark Side of Dimensions ) ? And when did they mention the destroying the universe portion ? I have watched it at least three times, and have never heard or even seen the slightest implications .

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

Bump. Also because i just remembered that the dimension covered the whole universe or it did mention universe . Will look up the movie to be sure.

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

well after watching the movie again and getting my hands on the manga volumes , it seems to me to be a major outlier. i was to quick to jump on the bandwagon when i first watched the Movie.

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

@Shadow don't apologize. All of the planetary feats are insanely [ like, with a small portion of his power ] casual anyways. I can back up what Shadow was originally saying. They do imply Universe level inside of the movie. They also have Yami Bakura defeating Shen in one-shot , who is a master of said energy. The Millennium Items, and their wielders ( I.E: Atem ) being superior is consistent throughout the entire movie. I think " Possibly 3-A " for the Movie versions is possible.