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Elaborate, I’m guessing it relates to bagua or whatever that thing is
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Yamato (One Piece) Vs Mereoleona Vermillion (Black Clover)
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DaMonkeMan
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I mean, Yamato claims to be oden. So if you're fine with smashing Oden, then go ahead.I’d smash both regardless of gender, but i’m just built different
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You said Mere gets speed blitzed earlier, can you elaborate?
DaMonkeMan
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Nvm I didn't know mere's speed. I said Yamato can use Thunder Bagua and Narikabura ( energy beam)You said Mere gets speed blitzed earlier, can you elaborate?
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If speed were equalized and Mana Zone is active, would these still “speed blitz”?
DaMonkeMan
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Maybe only Narikabura as it's not an attack she has to actively move her whole body for, it's a piercing beam. Meanwhile Thunder Bagua is her leaping right into an opponent's face with her club.
GodlyCharmander
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Yes.
Thunder Bagua is a speedblitz range over her base speed (which is what is equalized)
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What makes it still speed blitz despite being speed amped by Mana Zone?
GodlyCharmander
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Aren't the stats already factoring in this amp?
Kazuma_kuwabara
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Fixed, and I am with you
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Shouldn’t Mereleona just blitz
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Damn so like 5 people now saying Mereo can’t touch Yamato speed equalized …
nobody’s giving me a full explanation
…nobody’s giving me a full explanation
Kazuma_kuwabara
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Wdym?
You mean like the speed is equalized in Mana Zone?
it’s Hellfire incarnate that’s factored in if that’s what you mean, mana zone and mana zone: full release are seperate stat amps.
So how is bagua blitzing these types of Mana Zone.
Mana Zone boosts stats and allows for a mage to attack from any direction. Mereleona uses Mana Zone to boost stats and trap her opponent in an omnidirectional barrage of punches. Mana Zone; Full Release is higher than Mana Zone but Mereleona loves to nuke the battlefield with it.
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Cause Thunder Bagua is a massive amp for speedDamn so like 5 people now saying Mereo can’t touch Yamato speed equalized
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Go on.. That part’s already clear to me enough as it is.
Elaborate. What did she do?
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Hellfire Incarnate is a Mana Zone technique so it would make the most sense if she we considered her to be already using Mana Zone while using HI
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Did you forget MZ is a stat amp
Uhhhhhhh…..
Hellfire Incarnate is not a mana zone technique.
She was already in Mana Zone when she cast the spell in front of the demon maybe that’s why you thought it was a Mana Zone technique but she says “Flame Magic: Hell Fire Incarnate” instead. She’s just loves to fight with Mana Zone IC. So it can’t be factored speed equalized.
Then she has a higher Mana Zone called “Mana Zone: Full Release” but she’s more interested in nuking the battlefield with it.
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Doesn't yamamato tomato have conquerers haki? What's to stop that gg? Is she nulling it like her profile says she does mana because equalization, blocking with skin, or does yamato just not actually use it ic?
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Doesn't Conquerers Haki only affect people with weak willpower? Mereoleona shouldn't even feel it.
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"The ability to affect someone depends on the Haki user having greater strength of will than the person the Haki is being used against. The greater the power gap, the more easily the victim will succumb. Those with stronger wills can resist or even ignore the effects of Haoshoku Haki."
Guess so
Been a long-ass time since I watched one piece
DaMonkeMan
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Uh, no. Lol. Unless she's like Shanks who made Aramaki fall to the ground on his knees by using conq she's not gonna do much to her with it. But she CAN imbue conq
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Honestly
I don’t see this match up as a mismatch at equalized speeds
Both Characters have speed boosts.
Both Characters have good wincons
It’s just going to be a very good debatable match up.
I don’t see this match up as a mismatch at equalized speeds
Both Characters have speed boosts.
Both Characters have good wincons
It’s just going to be a very good debatable match up.
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Yes that was me quoting the wiki and agreeing its worthless here that is why I said "guess so" I'm not sure how this is hard to understand
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Speed has been re-equalized to make this match up more competitive.
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even without Speed Equalized, what's stopping Yamato from just
AOE Haoshoku blast gg (dark lightning should scale to AP and have sufficient range)
Busushoku + Ice Shield face tanking Calidus Brachium Barrage and other hits
Namuji Hyoga, air/lightning blasts gg
like yeah Yamato will have a tough time trying to land a hit, but considering how Yamato's stamina was capable of surviving without food or water as a child for 10 days straight, outlast Ace who can fight for 5 days straight, and likely back scale from and fight on par with Monkey D f*cking Luffy despite being debuffed by seastone handcuffs, which normally render Devil Fruit users almost completely immobile, I'm sure that Yamato can outlast long enough to land enough meaningful blows to cripple Mereoleona until she can't keep up anymore.
AOE Haoshoku blast gg (dark lightning should scale to AP and have sufficient range)
Busushoku + Ice Shield face tanking Calidus Brachium Barrage and other hits
Namuji Hyoga, air/lightning blasts gg
like yeah Yamato will have a tough time trying to land a hit, but considering how Yamato's stamina was capable of surviving without food or water as a child for 10 days straight, outlast Ace who can fight for 5 days straight, and likely back scale from and fight on par with Monkey D f*cking Luffy despite being debuffed by seastone handcuffs, which normally render Devil Fruit users almost completely immobile, I'm sure that Yamato can outlast long enough to land enough meaningful blows to cripple Mereoleona until she can't keep up anymore.
DaMonkeMan
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NGL I made some of those points before but people on this forum really don't listen and it's tiresome to try to explain it so I just go with their reasons.
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Goku!
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Mereleona should have two speed amps and an AOE nuke.
I remember this being a mismatch tho
I remember this being a mismatch tho
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