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Xianxia/Xuanhuan Discussion Thread

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I see, well...I only know that a part of the first volume is translated and that its very powerful going by use of math. In rest, some things I've seen you post in another thread...oh also the actual chinamen put it in their most powerful chinese novels with Perfect World and Dragon Talisman.
 
Really, people keep saying that so I'm eager to read the other four novels. Still, Dragon Talisman is pretty ridiculous from what I've read, all that "The realms of cultivation are decided by me" stuff.
 
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Really, people keep saying that so I'm eager to read the other four novels. Still, Dragon Talisman is pretty ridiculous from what I've read, all that "The realms of cultivation are decided by me" stuff.
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I mean, thats not that crazy at the end of novels for peak cultivators...Qin Yu and Linley Baruch can do that. Zhong Yue is all realms at once but also outside of them (well he cant truly re make the present ones as no such statement but a weaker guy created a new system that is used in another novel from the same series).

As long as someone can create their own universe it shouldnt be outside of the possibility of creating a new system... likely.
 
Probably not. It is more like reversing them to their mortal state without time reversal since it strips their potential for growth.
 
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Really, people keep saying that so I'm eager to read the other four novels. Still, Dragon Talisman is pretty ridiculous from what I've read, all that "The realms of cultivation are decided by me" stuff.
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If he decides to link another novel, it just raises the bar because DT's ending is this:

Lou Baiyue stood next to Gu Chensha and watched as he turned a giant that could tear apart countless existences into a long sword and threw it into the multiverse like trash. She couldn't help but sigh. "Chensha, this is the 101 protagonists you've refined. You said that one day, a protagonist will defeat you. When that time comes, you will be free. But when will that day come?"

"Wait for me." Gu Chensha shook his head. "I'm also looking forward to this day. Maybe it will be forever."
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Do you guys think this would work with our Tiering System?

They were three-dimensional creatures, so it was fine for them to fall into two-dimensional space. As long as it was an open two-dimensional space, it was like a back garden for them, and they could enter and leave at will.

Three-dimensional creatures could land at any point in the two-dimensional space, and using the three-dimensional space as a transit station, there was no place they could not go in the two-dimensional space.

A very simple example: Xiao Ming fell into a deep pit and could not climb up, so he took the stairs from home and climbed back to the ground.

At first glance, this sentence was simply impossible in the three-dimensional space.

Since he could not climb up, how did he take the stairs from home?

But if it was a three-dimensional creature in the two-dimensional space, then this made sense. The third dimension was nothing to Xiao Ming, and with a stretch of his hand, he could cross a distance that was not possible in the two-dimensional space.

Even if he was not wearing anything and did not have any pockets, he could still take out things from his' body 'continuously.

Of course, if he wanted to cross over as a whole, it was also possible. The body disappeared in the two-dimensional space and temporarily walked into the three-dimensional space. This was something that all two-dimensional creatures could not do, but three-dimensional creatures could do it easily. After that, all the coordinates of the two-dimensional space were at their disposal, and it was a perfect teleportation.

In the same way, because the third dimension did not exist, as long as one was slightly off in the third dimension, then even if the people in the two-dimensional space could see you, they would never be able to touch you.

As long as a three-dimensional creature wanted to, then in the two-dimensional space, he would be an unreachable existence, absolutely invincible.

Edit; Wow reading more their definition of Higher Dimensions fits our Higher-Dimensional Existence Ability perfectly.
 
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In Grandmist duology, such beings exist. Like cultivators (who have the potential to become a Meng) are born within the created cosmoses of the three Meng (Hong, Linley and Qin) but they are outside of the control of them. Like in the new created Cosmos of Qin Yu, it instantly has several such beings.
 
Welp, there's the first mention of Absolute Infinity.

"Victor's infinite energy symbolizes absolute infinity. In fact, he can also become a Quantum Observer, and because of his infinite energy, he only needs to transform himself into a quantum person, and then he will become an 'absolute infinite sub-observer'.

But since it was achieved through technology, a single technological weapon of their level quite literally cannot handle that much energy. At the same time, it takes actual time to turn Energy into Resources (Energy into Matter) to create sed weapons so they can't use it all at once and gotta go Danmaku style.

So ya, the first case of Absolute Infinity is just someone who can spam the crap out of their abilities cause they have an Absolute Infinity amount of power, but they also don't have a faucet big enough, or technology fast enough to let them use all that energy at once.
 
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Welp, there's the first mention of Absolute Infinity.

"Victor's infinite energy symbolizes absolute infinity. In fact, he can also become a Quantum Observer, and because of his infinite energy, he only needs to transform himself into a quantum person, and then he will become an 'absolute infinite sub-observer'.

But since it was achieved through technology, a single technological weapon of their level quite literally cannot handle that much energy. At the same time, it takes actual time to turn Energy into Resources (Energy into Matter) to create sed weapons so they can't use it all at once and gotta go Danmaku style.

So ya, the first case of Absolute Infinity is just someone who can spam the crap out of their abilities cause they have an Absolute Infinity amount of power, but they also don't have a faucet big enough, or technology fast enough to let them use all that energy at once.
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i mean it doesn`t really mean anything in its own. Without context it could be any tier
 
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In Grandmist duology, such beings exist. Like cultivators (who have the potential to become a Meng) are born within the created cosmoses of the three Meng (Hong, Linley and Qin) but they are outside of the control of them. Like in the new created Cosmos of Qin Yu, it instantly has several such beings.
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Welp, you were right.

Another example was the immortal path. It was also because the various information settings did not allow it, so it could not go on. If one did not become a saint, one would be an ant no matter how strong one became.

And if the information settings were that becoming a saint was not about mastering the root algorithm, but only about becoming stronger on the original foundation, then saints would also be ants.

The level division under mastering the root algorithm was theoretically infinite.

So in Lan Mu's eyes, there were only two levels in the world.

The root algorithm level and the non-root algorithm level.

If Lan Mu reached the level where he could add new information and open up various settings.

Then he could change the 'ascending space' of the entire omnipotent universe and the 'room for improvement'.

Instead of setting saints to master the root algorithm, he would set saints to master the laws and specially edit a set of laws on the information for life to comprehend.

In terms of strength level, saints were still saints.

But in the eyes of an existence at the root level, it was just going from an ant to an ant at level two.

And how many levels could an ant have?

The answer was that there could be as many levels as there were natural numbers.

Infinite.

Above the saint was set the perfected person, above the perfected person there was the progenitor realm, above the progenitor realm there was the treader realm, and above the treader realm there was the absolute …

There was as much love as there was, it all depended on whether the information was open to those.

Even though Lan Mu had set up a Soaring realm, those who had reached the end still had to comprehend the so-called true essence of the Soaring realm if they wanted to take another step forward.

Moreover, those people would feel that it was only natural. This was the law of heaven and earth!

If one didn't want to have original sins, in theory, designing infinite realms was the best way.
 
The Ultimate Demon

Read it on Novelhi. Pretty great tranlations.

One of the best novels I've read so far and at 350-something chapters right now.

The verse is basically true Gu Cultivation. There's all kinds of Gus each stranger than the other and tons of reality warping, curses, spacetime, etc Gus.

Like this is legit one of the best novels about using Gus to fight and there's so many different types. Also this is one of those stories where cultivation is not supreme since there's so many broken Gus and some can even be used by mortals to literally kill anyone in the verse. There's stuff like curse Gu which can kill almost anyone despite how strong they are and even a Gu based on Death Note lol.

Basically intelligence and learning about your opponent's Gus as well as how to counter them is what decides most fights.

MCs name is Shen Lian. At the start he has 2 Gus:

1. Fate Twisting Gu/Bewitchment Gu - it can control other Gu so while other Gu Masters take months or years to refine Gu, MC does it instantly. Also if MC bewitches people or alters the course of natural events, he earns bewitcment points that allow him to level up his other Gus.

2. Iron Skin Gu which evolves to Iron Jade Gu then Snake Jade Skin Gu after MC fuses it with other defence type Gus.

A person can have many types of Gu but the main one is called: Main Ascension Gu.

For the MC for example it's the:

3. Grandmaster Gu which evolves to the Military Strategist Gu after he fuses it with the Strategist Gu plus 100 Gus from the 100 schools of thought. This Gu is basically a Wisdom-type Gu that makes MC a genius at everything including martial arts, strategy, and basically just everything you can think off.

There's also Gus that can be fused to body parts or the soul.
MC has:

4. Calamity Gu (Serpent-Scorpion Calamity Gu) fused into his soul that allows him to manipulate calamities. It is basically reality manipulation. He also materializes a Calamity Scepter to bring about natural calamities like floods or delay calamities like plagues. It also has mental attacks and allows MC to withstand mental and soul attacks. It also allows MC to withstand instant death hax from the Life and Death Gu when Mac's name is written in the Life and Death Book since Death is a type of calamity.

For the rest of the body fusion Gu, MC has 5 of them for different organs like Dragon Heart Gu (an ancient Gu), Tiger Guts Gu, Whale Swallowing Gu, etc (2 more for the kidneys + reproductive system and lungs. These body fusion Gu mainly strengthen the body.

He also has:
5. Wedding Dress Gu - basically a Gu that allows him to create sect of loyal subordinates. It is a dual cultivation mother-child Gu. The child Gu are basically like slave seals. They increase followers power quickly and MC can control the followers life and death as well as plunder their powers.

6. Undead/Corpse Control Gu - MC basically has an undead army of thousands of mammoth corpses plus make his own dimension - Deathknell Town and even control white flames that burn souls as well as refine people into corpse puppets to serve him.

7. Devour Gu - this Gu is basically possessed by all Goblins. By eating another creature, they transform into it and lose all their previous memories becoming that thing forever. It is a one time consumable. MC uses one of these Gu to transform into a demonic werewolf called Abomination, loses himself and eats thousands of demons assimilating them and turning into a true Abomination. After he transforms back to human and regains his memories, he can still use it to devour and assimilate anything.

8. Flame Lion Gu - controls fire and anger. Can induce anger in others. After defeating the Angry Monk, it also even has the Flames of Anger.

9. Snake Fire Poison Gu - basically control fire poison.

10. White Rabbit (Sorrow) - controls sorrow. Touching it induces endless sorrow. Control white cold flames.

11. Teleportation Gu - obviously teleport. It starts out weak but MC levels it up a lot.

12. Wushuang Inn Gu - this Gu forms an Inn in another dimension where people can meet or hide. The owner of the inn can also control space in the inn.

13. Life and Death Book Gu - most OP Gu so far. Death Note. It is a supreme Gu so the Gu cannot tolerate the use of other Gu. As a result, the user is a mortal since they can't be a Gu Master. It is also a Gu that is carried on hand rather than refined in the body. As for how it works, you need someone's real name or the one they identify by the most, then a portrait of the person, then write how you want them to die. Then they die. It works despite any power level differences even when the last user was an ordinary mortal.

14. Freedom Gu - MC can basically transform his body at will. This allows him to take on different forms. Plus he can also harness the power of faith.

MC also has a Jade Mountain which gives him endless power and also produces Creation from Nothing Gu which can create any naturally occurring Gu in the world.

I think that's all the Gu MC has so far as of chapter 357. And even then there's even more broken Gu and even fodder characters can have super-broken Gu.
 
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As for Cultivation of both Gu Masters and Gu, it is divided into:
1. White Rank
2. Bronze Rank
3. Silver Rank
4. Gold Rank
5. Legend Rank
6. Epic? Rank (unconfirmed)

Gu also have unique abilities when they level up called "Special Effects". On top of that, if a person can enforce their will on the Gu, they awaken a "Divine Ability".

At the Legend Rank, Gu Masters can create their own world or dimension and because of that the laws of heaven and earth don't tolerate them. If they use power above Gold Rank 10, a calamity or tribulation will descend.
 
So far (chapter 357), the verse caps at around mountain level physically but the sheer number of reality warping hax is insane.

I'd say almost 50% of Gu and named characters have some sort of insane hax. Stuff like absolute mind control, reading people's minds just from wine, using the manifestation of rumors to kill, creating an armor out of the hate you receive from others, bypassing all defences by making reality into illusion and vice versa, using love to manifest armor, countless spatial and dimension creation abilities that even fodder have, etc.

It is a truly crazy verse.
 
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