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Welp, with revisions finally opening up. I figured it's time to tackle Xenoblade. This thread primarily tackles Xenoblade Chronicles 1, however information from Xenoblade 2 will be vital for explanation and thus will be included.
Note about Zanza and The Architect: These two characters are two halves of the same person, a former scientist known as Klaus, who after activating the conduit not only split the universe into at least two separate entities, but also split himself into two halves as proven in Xenoblade 2 where Zanza's Death Causes the Death of the Architect. Just how we treat characters of this nature separately such as Dracula and Soma of Castlevania are considered different characters, we should make a separate profile for the Architect. Now we've gotten that out of the way. Let's begin.
Alvis is also the being responsible for the creation and utilization of something called "The Passage of Fate", what this is an construct that dictates the events of all worlds as it's overarching Concept of Fate. Gods of the Multiverse are able to utilize the Passage of Fate to their advantage, as seen when after acquiring Meyneth's Monado, becomes one with it, and forms a new realm dubbed "Memory Space" a land based on Zanza's Memories of original universe before the Space-Time Transition, however it separated from the conventional Multiverse in the sense of it's existence is stated to be beyond the boundaries of Space-Time itself. Because Xenoblade's Energy Source known as "Ether" is the building block for all Existence, including Space & Time, which proves that the Multiverse is a 4-D Construct, The Passage of Fate in turn would be considered 5-D. Which both Zanza and Eventually Shulk would take control over.
One of the abilities that has been shown by the Passage of Fate, is to see the Multiverse in it's entirety as detailed by the Architect knowing of Endless Universes Co-Existing with one another, among them he knows and see's his other half, Zanza in the new universe born from the Conduit's Activation. However, the Conduit's power is stated to come from some "Far Flung Dimension", a realm that the Architect isn't able to see or know anything about. Zanza too who had merged with the 5-D Passage of Fate wasn't able to detect Alvis until he presented himself to Zanza to his surprise. It's also worth noting that The Architect acknowledges his imamate demise at the hands of Shulk through killing his other half, Zanza as "Retribution from on High". On High as in a being higher then him. This inadvertently refers to Shulk as he acquires Monado III which acts as an extension of Alvis aligning their wills and power alike. Alvis connects the light of the three Monado's and transfer all that power Zanza had acquired to Shulk, and by extension transferring control of the Passage of Fate, to him.
However, this is taken one step further in Xenoblade 2. The game introduced a character named "The Nopon Archsage" in the DLC named "The Land of Challenge". This character in essence is a mega fan of the series who has watched the events of each Xenoblade game unfold from his special realm, a realm that he himself had created. This realm serves as a place to connect this Multiverse together and to bring central characters of Xenoblade 1, X and 2 together to compete in special challenges to fulfill his lifelong dream. Shulk, Fiora, Rex and Co are transported to the Archsage’s Realm through portals, however with Elma due to the events of Xenoblade X which will be tackled in a separate revision had come under different circumstances. He also acknowledges the events that happen as stories apart of an overall narrative, this in it of itself doesn't mean much but there are a few other things that further prove this point.
Shulk was unaware of the Archsage’s Realm upon arriving, despite becoming the new host of the Passage of Fate right before Zanza's Demise, which would allow one to see the entirety of a Multiversal Structure on a 5-D scale. This would further imply that The Archsage’s Realm is superior to The Passage of Fate. Another scan that supports the Archsage's realm being superior to the Passage of Fate is his Re-Appearance in the Definitive Edition of the original Xenoblade. This time he has a few more comments on the nature of his realm and it's purpose.
The term "Past Futures" may be pretty confusing at first, but considering the other scans supporting the Archsage's Realm being a transcendent plane of Existence, he likely means on a higher perspective he sees all of time and the events of each game. There is one other fact that should be shared here. The Archsage's Realm also canonically connects to the company behind the Xenoblade game's themselves "Monolith Soft". Allow me to introduce a legit Monolith Employee named "Monopon". She is the official mascot of Monolith Soft itself, she also introduces herself as such here. (Apologies for the small bit of commentary there, but it was the best I could find where we can hear her clearly, however you can hear Monopon's Introduction confirming everything that I'm saying. This means that Monolith Soft itself exists in the world of Xenoblade on the same level as the Archsage.
So...how does this relate to Alvis? Well in the scans of Xenoblade 2, the main characters of each game are brought to the land of challenge, however the most important character (Alvis) is absent and is unable to be brought thier, and it is because of Alvis' actions in the climax of Xenoblade 1 makes things happen when he connects the light of the three Monado's and create world reset and set it on a new course where lifeforms will walk hand in hand toward the future. Shulk himself even acknowledges this as Alvis' doing in his appearance in Xenoblade 2 where he meets Rex, Elma and Kos-Mos. The scene where Alvis uses his vision to show that the new world allowed all lifeforms to walk hand in hand towards the future takes place in the epilogue of the game, post reset. However the Definitive Edition of the game that released earlier this year comes with a new epilogue, that shows that the Power of Visions are gone from the world. This is due to Shulk giving Monado III and the Passage of Fate, now being gone. However, Alvis' vision of all life walking hand in hand towards the future playing out showcases that he is above the Passage of Fate, and because it's his actions of connecting the three Monado's together to form that new world, which allows the events of the Nopon Archsage to happen. This shows that the Archsage is above the Passage of Fate, but below the "Far Flung Dimension". In other words, the dimensional plane pecking order goes something like this... Multiverse (4-D)<Passage of Fate (5-D)<Land of Challenge(6-D)<Far Flung Dimension (7-D). As a result this should make Alvis Tier 1.
On a side note, If Alvis is accepted as 1-C, and Shulk/Zanza are both accepted as Tier 1. Shulk has two options for his tier adjustment. His key can go, either "At Least Low 1-C, likely 1-C" or "At Least Low 1-C, likely much higher". As for Dual Monado Zanza, he becomes purely Low 1-C.
Note about Zanza and The Architect: These two characters are two halves of the same person, a former scientist known as Klaus, who after activating the conduit not only split the universe into at least two separate entities, but also split himself into two halves as proven in Xenoblade 2 where Zanza's Death Causes the Death of the Architect. Just how we treat characters of this nature separately such as Dracula and Soma of Castlevania are considered different characters, we should make a separate profile for the Architect. Now we've gotten that out of the way. Let's begin.
- Alvis becomes solid 1-C
Alvis is also the being responsible for the creation and utilization of something called "The Passage of Fate", what this is an construct that dictates the events of all worlds as it's overarching Concept of Fate. Gods of the Multiverse are able to utilize the Passage of Fate to their advantage, as seen when after acquiring Meyneth's Monado, becomes one with it, and forms a new realm dubbed "Memory Space" a land based on Zanza's Memories of original universe before the Space-Time Transition, however it separated from the conventional Multiverse in the sense of it's existence is stated to be beyond the boundaries of Space-Time itself. Because Xenoblade's Energy Source known as "Ether" is the building block for all Existence, including Space & Time, which proves that the Multiverse is a 4-D Construct, The Passage of Fate in turn would be considered 5-D. Which both Zanza and Eventually Shulk would take control over.
One of the abilities that has been shown by the Passage of Fate, is to see the Multiverse in it's entirety as detailed by the Architect knowing of Endless Universes Co-Existing with one another, among them he knows and see's his other half, Zanza in the new universe born from the Conduit's Activation. However, the Conduit's power is stated to come from some "Far Flung Dimension", a realm that the Architect isn't able to see or know anything about. Zanza too who had merged with the 5-D Passage of Fate wasn't able to detect Alvis until he presented himself to Zanza to his surprise. It's also worth noting that The Architect acknowledges his imamate demise at the hands of Shulk through killing his other half, Zanza as "Retribution from on High". On High as in a being higher then him. This inadvertently refers to Shulk as he acquires Monado III which acts as an extension of Alvis aligning their wills and power alike. Alvis connects the light of the three Monado's and transfer all that power Zanza had acquired to Shulk, and by extension transferring control of the Passage of Fate, to him.
However, this is taken one step further in Xenoblade 2. The game introduced a character named "The Nopon Archsage" in the DLC named "The Land of Challenge". This character in essence is a mega fan of the series who has watched the events of each Xenoblade game unfold from his special realm, a realm that he himself had created. This realm serves as a place to connect this Multiverse together and to bring central characters of Xenoblade 1, X and 2 together to compete in special challenges to fulfill his lifelong dream. Shulk, Fiora, Rex and Co are transported to the Archsage’s Realm through portals, however with Elma due to the events of Xenoblade X which will be tackled in a separate revision had come under different circumstances. He also acknowledges the events that happen as stories apart of an overall narrative, this in it of itself doesn't mean much but there are a few other things that further prove this point.
Shulk was unaware of the Archsage’s Realm upon arriving, despite becoming the new host of the Passage of Fate right before Zanza's Demise, which would allow one to see the entirety of a Multiversal Structure on a 5-D scale. This would further imply that The Archsage’s Realm is superior to The Passage of Fate. Another scan that supports the Archsage's realm being superior to the Passage of Fate is his Re-Appearance in the Definitive Edition of the original Xenoblade. This time he has a few more comments on the nature of his realm and it's purpose.
The term "Past Futures" may be pretty confusing at first, but considering the other scans supporting the Archsage's Realm being a transcendent plane of Existence, he likely means on a higher perspective he sees all of time and the events of each game. There is one other fact that should be shared here. The Archsage's Realm also canonically connects to the company behind the Xenoblade game's themselves "Monolith Soft". Allow me to introduce a legit Monolith Employee named "Monopon". She is the official mascot of Monolith Soft itself, she also introduces herself as such here. (Apologies for the small bit of commentary there, but it was the best I could find where we can hear her clearly, however you can hear Monopon's Introduction confirming everything that I'm saying. This means that Monolith Soft itself exists in the world of Xenoblade on the same level as the Archsage.
So...how does this relate to Alvis? Well in the scans of Xenoblade 2, the main characters of each game are brought to the land of challenge, however the most important character (Alvis) is absent and is unable to be brought thier, and it is because of Alvis' actions in the climax of Xenoblade 1 makes things happen when he connects the light of the three Monado's and create world reset and set it on a new course where lifeforms will walk hand in hand toward the future. Shulk himself even acknowledges this as Alvis' doing in his appearance in Xenoblade 2 where he meets Rex, Elma and Kos-Mos. The scene where Alvis uses his vision to show that the new world allowed all lifeforms to walk hand in hand towards the future takes place in the epilogue of the game, post reset. However the Definitive Edition of the game that released earlier this year comes with a new epilogue, that shows that the Power of Visions are gone from the world. This is due to Shulk giving Monado III and the Passage of Fate, now being gone. However, Alvis' vision of all life walking hand in hand towards the future playing out showcases that he is above the Passage of Fate, and because it's his actions of connecting the three Monado's together to form that new world, which allows the events of the Nopon Archsage to happen. This shows that the Archsage is above the Passage of Fate, but below the "Far Flung Dimension". In other words, the dimensional plane pecking order goes something like this... Multiverse (4-D)<Passage of Fate (5-D)<Land of Challenge(6-D)<Far Flung Dimension (7-D). As a result this should make Alvis Tier 1.
- Shulk and Zanza's End Game keys drop Tier 2 entirely and become Low 1-C, scaling from the Passage of Fate
On a side note, If Alvis is accepted as 1-C, and Shulk/Zanza are both accepted as Tier 1. Shulk has two options for his tier adjustment. His key can go, either "At Least Low 1-C, likely 1-C" or "At Least Low 1-C, likely much higher". As for Dual Monado Zanza, he becomes purely Low 1-C.
- Monado's Speed's Percentage Increase is 40%
- The Passage of Fate gets added Causality Manipulation. Shulk, Zanza and Meyneth gain Type 4 Acausality
- Removal of "Existing Outside of The Passage of Fate" for the lower tiers...except Fiora
- Shulk, Zanza, and Alvis get a Range Upgrade to Low Complex Multiversal and Complex Multiversal respectively
- Shulk's High 8-C key becomes Unusable in Vs Matches
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