Would these feats raise Toriko to MFTL?

[Heatforce]

scans are in this thread on comicvine: http://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/battles-7/jin-mo-ri-vs-toriko-1831150/?page=2#js-message-94

Joa reacting to a laser which reached other planets near instantly and Star can perceive MFTL by using layer upon layer of back channel and manipulate time but I think the "perceive" is the important part.

 

[Cropfist]

The back channel was agreed to mean nothing for speed since it was just time hax, but the laser could warrant an upgrade.

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

Derous laser was already calc on naruto forums and t5forums i think, to only be FTL so no upgrade and what starjun does is basically stop time or something can't remember exactly what but the end result is essentially precog, so no upgrade either for him.

 

[Stefano4444]

http://www.t5forums.com/forum/the-v...-toriko-calc-derous-firin-hiz-lazar-dat-speed

 

[Joseph619]

Derous laser was already calc on naruto forums and t5forums i think, to only be FTL so no upgrade and what starjun does is basically stop time or something can't remember exactly what but the end result is essentially precog, so no upgrade either for him.

10 sec is too high imo. In toriko almost all feats take place in 0.1 second or within 1 second. I would rather usre the mid vale/highball here. 10 sec timeframe is completely inconsistent with Toriko

 

[PaChi2]

So, FTL+ (16c) as a low-end to MFTL+ (is 2000c MFTL+?) as a high-end. 10 seconds in toriko is a hell of a lowball to be honest (everything happens in 0.001 secs, its almost comical).

 

[Joseph619]

So, FTL+ (16c) as a low-end to MFTL+ (is 2000c MFTL+?) as a high-end. 10 seconds in toriko is a hell of a lowball to be honest (everything happens in 0.001 secs, its almost comical).

I just ninjad u brother

But yeqh, 10 second or even 5 second is a ridiculous and nonsensical lowball, even GOD orbitting his tongue around the planet used 0.1 second for the calc. I don't see why this should be any different. Here's GOD's calc below

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Alakabamm/A_Few_Toriko_Feats

I request for recalc eith different timeframe

 

[PaChi2]

got ninja'd Huh! >_>

Nice one Joseph.

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

I am pretty sure this only had a result of only FTL on narutoforums, i have more confidence in narutoforums, would have to find the calc though.

 

[Joseph619]

I am pretty sure this only had a result of only FTL on narutoforums, i have more confidence in narutoforums, would have to find the calc though.

Here you go

http://www.narutoforums.com/xfa-blog-entry/dragon-king-deuros-blast-speed-toriko.35772/

Not sure where they got the distance from

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

Who knows, i know nothing about calcs, we need a calc member to tell us which calc is correct. Gonna highlight this since it can potentially upgrade a good amount of characters.

 

[Joseph619]

Who knows, i know nothing about calcs, we need a calc member to tell us which calc is correct. Gonna highlight this since it can potentially upgrade a good amount of characters.

Thanks man lets hope we get something good out of this

 

[PaChi2]

Anyone scalable to Derous would get the upgrade if accepted, every top tier (from teppei to Acacia)

 

[Perilouss]

Wait. So can someone tell me why exactly 10seconds is too long for torikoverse, yet 5minutes for a couple of panels in bleach is perfectly fine even as a lowball? No offence but that just seems very biased.

 

[PaChi2]

because in torikoverse in 0.1 seconds they talk, attack and counterattack (joie vs midora), they get destroyed (bambina vs 4HK first encounter) or can be killed iirc ten times (first meeting starjun and toriko), also 0.1 secs was the delay in Starjun's GT robo,which made him lose to toriko (here starjun is so above toriko it isnt funny). There may be more instances in which this number has been addressed (Acacia using his back channel:strong).

So, having into consideration that NOTHING ELSE happened in that time gap that we know of, assuming 5 minutes as you imply would be ridiculous because in that timeframe they have time to attack roughly 3000 times at each other as a very lowball.

Edit: please dont ask for the scans, Im too tired to do so, Im not making up this number, its stated like that in the manga.

 

[Tivanenk]

NF is more accurate because it doesn't have time frame assumptions.

 

[CrossverseCrisis]

I showed Alakabamm the calc one from T5forums and he likely had the same thought as Tivan here above, which is why he liked for us using the one from NF (i showed him two calcs here some months back, btw).

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

Ok so the narutforums one doesn't have assumed timeframes seems more accurate to me then.

 

[CrossverseCrisis]

Well actually this is what Alakabamm said here on this.

"The one on NF looks fine. I had a problem with the T5 one because it assumed that the bodies shown were certain planets."

So the actual reason he didn't take the T5 one was that some of the bodies shown in space were presumed to be planets or something he said on. He didn't actually comment on the assumed timeframes but i get the thought that he had a similar idea like Tivan. Also, the NF one is more in line for the other FTL feats that we currently have them scaled to here.

 

[Perilouss]

@PaChi

Okay, but can you tell me when in the entirety of bleach did two characters literally stare at each other for 5 whole minutes? Because I know you can't, and that was what was happening during the mimihagi feat. Heck even looking at each other for 30 whole seconds in the midst of war is ridiculously laughable.

Still seems biased and unfair.

 

[PaChi2]

@Perilous if you have any complaint about how was lowballed the bleach calc, please make a CR thread about it because this isnt the place to talk about it (sorry), already explained why 10 seconds in toriko is a lot of time for something to happen. If you have arguments for mimihagi crossing the distance to the Soul King palace that support using a smaller timeframe, it'd be most appreciated to have an upgrade for him, Yhwach, ichigo and Aizen.

 

[Antvasima]

So, if Alakabamm and Tivanenk are okay with it, is anybody interested in inserting a link to the Narutoforums calculation to an appropriate page, or would that be redundant?

 

[CrossverseCrisis]

Alakabamm already agreed on the calc months ago. And i inserted this on Derous' page. I'm pretty sure it'd be redundant to link it to several more.

We can just work on saying that some are scaled to Neo/Acacia for reacting to them due to the former reacting or whatever the heck they did on Derous' laser move.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay.

 

[CrossverseCrisis]

Yup