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yes, butits just law hax
Yeah, I think so anyone who can effect it should get CM2 and if there is more context on principle being independent of it governs then it can be CM 1for the detail, i'm asking about the picture below, would someone that affect principles, truth and law here having concept manipulation?
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im not an expert on this so, help?
Wouldn't it be CM 2 since it said to be govern the world and by seeing image I think it can also change it?Concepts, as we treat them, shape what they are the concept of. The concept of apples governs all apples and their forms, and all apples are made according to the concept of apples as well, so without it, there would be no apples.
What is described in that image are laws, why an apple falls, and why water turns into clouds, it does not govern why the moon and sun are what they are, it simply governs that it rises and falls. Although reality would probably break if those laws disappear, a bottle of water would still be a bottle of water, if that makes sense.
They're saying its the laws itself that govern the world. Like why an apple falls is because of the law of gravity. It would be him being able to affect the Laws of gravity so just Law Manipulation. Like what Spaceman said, reality would break if these laws disappear but they're not actually affecting the conceptWouldn't it be CM 2 since it said to be govern the world and by seeing image I think it can also change it?
And on the subject of gravity manipulation, if a character has full control over the "law of universal gravitation" would that fit as gravity's CM 2?They're saying its the laws itself that govern the world. Like why an apple falls is because of the law of gravity. It would be him being able to affect the Laws of gravity so just Law Manipulation. Like what Spaceman said, reality would break if these laws disappear but they're not actually affecting the concept
vsbw Gravity page already has gravity being a fundamental force in the universe. What would "law of universal gravitation" entail besides just gravity manipulation on a universal scale?And on the subject of gravity manipulation, if a character has full control over the "law of universal gravitation" would that fit as gravity's CM 2?
The context here refers explicitly to laws, not concepts as the paragraph below indicates.yes, but
why wouldnt it be concept?
(i have the same problem if the story uses word like death itself and such
Laws governs the world (the universe to be precise) by default.Wouldn't it be CM 2 since it said to be govern the world and by seeing image I think it can also change it?
The law of universal gravitation is what defines what gravity is, and without it gravity would not exist.vsbw Gravity page already has gravity being a fundamental force in the universe. What would "law of universal gravitation" entail besides just gravity manipulation on a universal scale?
It does not define it, it is just the idea that all particles in the universe attract one another. Unless ur not talking about newtons then I don't know what u could mean.The law of universal gravitation is what defines what gravity is, and without it gravity would not exist.
Exactly, being the Idea behind something fundamental is what defines our CM standardsIt does not define it, it is just the idea that all particles in the universe attract one another.
No, without it gravity simply wouldn't act according to the laws of gravity, it would still exist. Unless it's specified in a verse to act that way, that is wrong.The law of universal gravitation is what defines what gravity is, and without it gravity would not exist.
Wouldn't she actually be non-existent?No, without it gravity simply wouldn't act according to the laws of gravity, it would still exist. Unless it's specified in a verse to act that way, that is wrong.
No, we only know what gravity is, because we studied the laws of gravity. If the laws of gravity change to something completely different, it doesn't mean gravity itself does not exist, it just means it acts different now.Wouldn't she actually be non-existent?
In matter of fact (fun fact) we don't even know if gravity actually exists.No, we only know what gravity is, because we studied the laws of gravity. If the laws of gravity change to something completely different, it doesn't mean gravity itself does not exist, it just means it acts different now.
If the verse shows that the very idea of the "laws of universal gravitation" are the origin of gravity within the verse then can this be considered CM 1 or 2? The law of universal gravitation is also described as one of the powers of truth in the worldNo, without it gravity simply wouldn't act according to the laws of gravity, it would still exist. Unless it's specified in a verse to act that way, that is wrong.