Existing before worlds/creation/ fundemental aspect

[eibwen]

I've tried to put this on Q&A since I'm not so sure about it, but since that section get little to no attention, better turned it into a debate then
When I debating off vsb wiki, im having this problem the "existing before concepts/creation/or any fundemental " has many ways to approches it, makes it confusing to evaluate.
Therefore, I wanted to show you ways to understand about the term so we can have a discussion on it, I will divided those to what I agree and what I dont

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Spoiler: The more general meaning to me

Type 1 : worthless, just as before something theres nothing, existing before fundemental creation would just be a paradoxical way to call "nothing", that "nothing" later got turned in to "something". A non-existence got overlapped by creation, means that it does exist now, it used to doesnt exist ( or lacking fundemental aspects )
Type 2 : another paradoxical, as you were stated as a being that "exist before all concept", you are indeed a concept that exist before even the first concept,you are a personal concept (CM3) behaves just like acausuality type 1

Type 1: Time Paradox Immunity: Characters with this type of Acausality are rendered immune to changes in the past and standard temporal paradoxes, but remain just as vulnerable in the present and can be affected by normal Causality Manipulation and similar abilities.

Spoiler: Ones that I dissagree with/ It will took so many more context or supply information so that the "existing before" statements wouldnt even be necessary

Type 3 : the "NEP", as you exist before everything making you lacking every possible aspect, since those just hasnt exist yet, effectively Non-Existence Physiology

• This type collied with type one, as the Non-Existence Existence via "Exist before creation/ fundemental" continued to be NEP
• If the author really wanted to write a NEP character, that character should've been worded differently than an existence ( except ofcourse the story mentioned something similar to a paradoxical or just more context later )

Type 4 : the conceptual manipulation type 1, as you exist before worlds/ creation, you're effectively independent from the world itself
I'm probably shouldnt touch this
+ Focusing on the "Exist before " the sentence was a chronological comparsion, there weren't any words suggesting one has higher quality nor does it completely independent from eachothers

 

[Everything12]

This is not a content revision, just because you don't get an answer immediately does not mean you create a thread in the wrong section.