Here's the thing
If we are going to pull off Tuska the Daemon Killa. It's either the axe and the former 2 creators are outliers or the creators scale to their creations. It's either to accept or reject. We can't do both.
Also one of the worst things is they pushed a sylvanas redemption act after all the crap she did in BFA. but push that arthus is a monster and part way through the last raid we get to see sylvanas monologuing about how he should just be forgotten to the last of arthus' soul that was fading away after it was freed from the blade it was sealed in.
The chubbiest middle finger given to Lick King expansion ever.
That's just the thing. One end has anti-feats, the other doesn't.
Well the new lore devs the whole explanation were giving a middle finger to the old lore. hell they made Elune into one of the biggest cosmic morons in the setting.
So...what happened?
Then let them have that tier by drawing power from another source then since it doesn't scale to their own magic or physicals.
Well it turns out she has a sister in the shadowlands who called out for help since there was a drought since they stopped getting souls. Well Elune did not bother to look into what was going on (We see that other cosmic forces could enter the shadowlands in that explanation) before she blocked the night elves that died in the genocide that was at the start of BFA from becoming Wisps. She than proceed to send the souls the normal way which dumped all of them into the Maw aka the home jailor and the realm of eternals torment and soul destruction, it turns out she had no ******* clue that she did this and was not even aware what the hell was even going on and did not even bother to see if the souls even made it to her sister's realm.
I mean not even dragonflight can stop bringing up that damn explanation.
Oh great
Immaculately based, really.
Baine is based, but holy **** does he get captured a lot
His literal first introduction into the warcraft lore is being captured by centaur...what the ****
Yeah he has a history of being a damsel in distress
It's either he has really bad luck or he is a bit of a *********.
Once I can make rexxar, yes he's most likely going to be 7-A, and pretty high into it at that
Considering the fact he single handedly slaughtered an entire army of naga, killed off entire armies of proudmore's troops, destroyed his fortress in Kalimdor and completely massacred his forces and proudmore himself in his own city in Theramore Isle whilst being compared to Grom by Thrall himself. Yeah, very far up the 7-A scaling chain.
Yeh
Agreed
Why? Cause he only beat Cenarius after voring more Demon Blood
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No, because he beaten Mannoroth, post purification.Why? Cause he only beat Cenarius after voring more Demon Blood
Also made this, I feel like I'm missing Priestess of Elune shitDaReaperMan/Maiev Shadowsong
Mannoroth is just a nickname, his actual name is Jobber because holy shit, he Jobs hard.
Isn't the jobber comparable to other pit lords like Magtheridon? Aside from that, he's Tichondrius' superior.
Magtheridon at least has feats to back up his position.
The point is, anything Magtheridon did, Mannoroth would have upscaled by virtue of being one of Archimonde's lieutenants compared to some random pit lord that might possibly be weaker than Mannoroth's former lieutenant Azgalor.
You're making wrong comparisons. For one, the lore states that Archimonde himself. Chose Mannoroth to be his lieutenant amongst many other pit lords that was present while Magtheridon is merely a lord of shattered planet...big difference there bud. He is also remarked to have immense magic proficiency surpassing pre skull of Guldan illidan and only barring Azhara.
Except one has feats against meaningful characters and the other got his ass handed to him twice by the same guy just in Alternate timelines.
He got 2? Maiev got far more than 2 and she couldn't take down characters far below her own weight class not to mention the dumpster fire that is getting herself pinned down on a single base in the broken isles requiring Malfurion's aid to break even.
Should probably just attribute the thing to Gorehowl. He after all, dies after tanking Mannoroth's death explosion back in the main timeline. which if he is physically strong enough to oneshot Mannoroth, he shouldn't have given a damn about the explosion.
Fair
How does Cenarius' feats take him?
Fair point.
The point is, he is somewhat on Azhara's level albeit being inferior.
Thing is she's also got more feats then she does Anti-feats, unlike Mannoroth.
You're gonna need proof about the death blast.
Just what does exactly Magtheridon scale to first of all?
Certainly not on the Eredar brother's level or medivh nor Aegwyn.
1. Indeed, the same could be said for Illidan.
Wrong person, I was referring to Jarod.
This is the exact same situation as Broxigar. They both have weapons that allowed them to dish out damage above their standard weight class. You even said it shouldn't even scale to their physicals if that's the case hence you reinforced my argument that Grom's physicals are not equal to the damage he dishes out with Gorehowl. Infact, his axe is far more durable than his own body. Same exact thing with Axe of Cenarius hence forth.
My estimations were a lot lower. Considering the fact that she recently loss to the combined efforts of Lor'themor Theron and Jain Proudmoore and got her slithering arse dragged in the abyss. Are we absolutely sure that she is that OP or are pit lords just really fodder and should be scrapped along into F tier?
Yes, the same guy that is afraid of Kil'jaeden in Warcraft 3. I know he blew a planet up.
Two word Not. Canon. there are SEVEN inconsistencies with what Maiev pulled in Wolfheart, so for the same reason she has no scaling to Malfurion on her page despite nearly killing him, Jarod can't scale to her for beating her in Wolfheart
What is wolfheart? And Amy other things that aren't canon?
Oneshot as in knocking out? No, Thrall was merely knocked out, he didn't receive any grievous wounds or broken bones. As for grom tanking the hit and not getting knocked out, that is attributed to his notorious iron will and the fact he doesn't get skewered like Kratos. Had he simply one punched Mannoroth to his death I would not be correcting you.
Damn, just put them on 7-A.
Should make a key for post-resurrection Illidan.
Jarod vs Maiev happens in the novel Wolfheart, for all intents and purposes, anything specifically involving Worgen or Varian(usually both) is canon. Anything involving High Elves, Jarod, or Maiev, generates too many inconsistencies and is straight up contradicted. To let you know what Maiev did, she killed numerous High Elf mages, nearly killed Malfurion, and got beaten by Jarod and left. Tyrande relieved her of duty then and put Jarod in her place... and the literal next time we see Maiev in Legion she is repeatedly stated in every media, including in-game to be the leader of the Watchers, she's even pretty much stated to be so in Warlords of Draenor too. And
That did not mean it isn't canon unless it is stated as such.
To level with you, if Cairne never had his runespear shattered he would've killed Garrosh there and now. Also you do realize that Gorehowl is the only thing that survived Thrall's lightning strike whereas Garrosh is vaporized. I would also like to point out that in WoW. Equipping weapon and items actually boost their physical stats which means they hit much harder than they should or if they cast magic spells that boost their physicals equal to their weapons like Illidan, so what you're saying is absolutely correct except the dragons that aren't dragon aspects or whatever is shalamanye...never head of em.
Then just give Grom 6-A via scaling to that! Why did we even discuss the above if there was already that!
He'd be comparable to Jaina if they survived their encounter with Azhara
Just do it!
Ever hear if something being retconned? You think Maiev behind the scenes stayed leader of the Wardens even though she was stated to not be that anymore? No, Maiev's activities in Wolfheart are pretty much entirely retconned as they're never mentioned again and what happened with her is directly contradicted. As such, not canon. Not usable.
