World of Darkness vs The Elder Scrolls (NLF edition)

[Hykuu]

LMFAO

 

[Jockey-1337]

NOOO

 

[JackJoyce]

NOOO

Is this a vote for Numidium?

 

[TOAAPRESENCE1]

I go numidium just because how he knows there are gods but still decides to say there are non

 

[Udlmaster]

I go numidium just because how he knows there are gods but still decides to say there are non

That doesn't sound like a valid reason.

Could you elaborate?

 

[Jockey-1337]

NOOO

Is this a vote for Numidium?

Yes

 

[Udlmaster]

Could you explain @Jockey why you've chosen to vote for The Numidium?

 

[Jockey-1337]

Could you explain @Jockey why you've chosen to vote for The Numidium?

The numbers of 1-A characters in TES is higher. The Numidium is more powerful than most of them. Also, he is immortal enough to tank attacks from even more powerful 1-As (CHIM users).


Also, the Numidium is cooler and more memetic.

 

[Udlmaster]

The numbers of 1-A characters in TES is higher. The Numidium is more powerful than most of them.

While true that the number of 1-A beings who have profiles for TES is greater then that of WoD, TES was stated to be Baseline 1-A by Ultima Reality.

In contrast, this Caine is Aleph Infinite to Epsilon Infinite Outerversal Transcendences into 1-A.

Also, he is immortal enough to tank attacks from even more powerful 1-As (CHIM users)

However, while that maybe true, WoD has TES beat in terms of power, being able to tank attacks from beings weaker than the being The Numidium is fighting right now wouldn't save it.

Also, The Numidium is cooler and more memetic

Fair.

 

[TOAAPRESENCE1]

could you give a link to were Ultima says they are only baseline?

 

[Udlmaster]

could you give a link to were Ultima says they are only baseline?

https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/2414187?useskin=oasis

Here's Ultima says Father Time and Aka are comparable, Matthew says they're trillions to Infinitely above baseline 1-A, not infinite Transcendences, just infinity above baseline.

 

[Hykuu]

Who said father time is baseline again?

 

[Udlmaster]

Who said father time is baseline again?

Elizhaa gave a baseline 1-A description.

 

[TOAAPRESENCE1]

"There are potentially trillions if not infinite Original Spirits who themselves are not just "Dude with 1-A power", they are very much boundless, shapeless, platonic beings to whom the very word "being" hardly applies. I don't think they're even beings one could fight directly like some 1-As do."


and this is what Ultima is respondiing too

Q:"Is Aka above CHIM users or below?"

A:"Comparable, most likely, since attaining CHIM by witnessing the Aurbis sideways as the Tower had no noticeable effect on Lorkhan, who is Aka's equal.


so he never has said that they are only baseline

so either you did not know or you were just downplaying them.

 

[TOAAPRESENCE1]

so i will go with numidium

 

[Hykuu]

We are presupposing that is correct, or what Ultima used because? Not to mention Elizhaa's comment came after Ultima's, and the only other comments before ultima's were ones which put father time above baseline

Thing is, I am basically just pointing this one thing out, in the end, TES (VBW profiles atleast) doesn't even compare to WoD, not sure if that is true outside of the wiki though

 

[Udlmaster]

I believe it was Agnaa who said it after a debate about it came up, where he asked Ultima, and I had asked Matthew.

 

[TOAAPRESENCE1]

Ultima was responding to zachary's question if aka was above or below CHIM users

 

[Hykuu]

I am pretty sure TES was still treated as above baseline in that thread, but regardless, the original point still stands

Caine stomps

 

[Jockey-1337]

0-Summing is a power of the Godhead itself (Am I right?), so can he erase Caine?

 

[Udlmaster]

Either way, being infinitely above baseline 1-A ain't that great, most of all not when it comes to fighting WoD's 1-As.

And I'll keep note of them being infinitely above baseline, and I'll see if I can ever find where I got the Baseline 1-A thing from.

 

[Udlmaster]

0-Summing is a power of the Godhead itself (Am I right?), so can he erase Caine?

Not really, but if I said it were, then it wouldn't matter.

Caine has too many passives to give him the stomp victory.

 

[JackJoyce]

Elizhaa gave a baseline 1-A description.

Sandman said Father time and mother night can be the strongest 1-A in DC https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/2982465?#100

 

[Udlmaster]

Retcon corp are the strongest 1-A they have.

 

[Hykuu]

That's basically turning this into derailiment but okay


Caine still stomps VBW TES

 

[Udlmaster]

So, shall this be closed as one would expect a 1-A v High 1-B would go.

A stomp

 

[Jockey-1337]

Also, The Numidium is cooler and more memetic

Fair.

Cats say meow

Dogs say woof

The Numidium says no

 

[Udlmaster]

I mean, from what we have seen, Numidium is weaker than 1-A Caine.