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Woody vs. Goku

Soupywolf5 said:
Also against Frieza Goku, (Screw it I'm just going to say his name) was constantly told about how much stronger he was and that Goku would never beat him. And when he had gotten there Frieza had already defeated everyone else, and then Frieza killed Vegeta. He doesn't have any of that against Woody
And that doesn't change the fact Frieza was curbing him and that he was using Kaioken. Plus this is in character but with intent to kill by SBA, which means he aims to either kill or incap Woody.
 
Except Woody will be nearly killing him with every hit he does land (And if Woody were to get close then use Rocket Ruckus that would definitely kill him)
 
Soupywolf5 said:
Except Woody will be nearly killing him with every hit he does land (And if Woody were to get close then use Rocket Ruckus that would definitely kill him)
That's assuming

A. Woody lands a hit with the skill gap

B. Bothers to use Rocket Ruckus as can start with something =/= will. And I know personally that he wont.
 
Hst master said:
Soupywolf5 said:
Except Woody will be nearly killing him with every hit he does land (And if Woody were to get close then use Rocket Ruckus that would definitely kill him)
That's assuming
A. Woody lands a hit with the skill gap

B. Bothers to use Rocket Ruckus as can start with something =/= will. And I know personally that he wont.
Woody could actually make use of his stealth mastery if Goku does yeet him (Like you so adamantly insist he would)

And how do you "know personally" that he won't start with it (I mean yeah he probably won't but what do you mean personally?)
 
Cuz I've played the game several times. He doesn't start with it.

And Goku has enhanced senses since as a child so that's moot as well.
 
Nope. He invites you to use it. And he doesn't lead with it unless it's through game mechanics.
 
You mean Team Effort? If so how is that game mechanics? (Curse my lack of knowledge of KH)
 
Hst master said:
Nope. He invites you to use it. And he doesn't lead with it unless it's through game mechanics.
Yeah, because he can´t do it alone if we go by that.
 
Because the way they invite you to do their limits/team edforts is random. They only always lead with it through an item or ability or a change in their A.I.'s settings.
 
Yeah, because he can´t do it alone if we go by that.

Why wouldn't he? It's his Rocket and it's not like other limits that need Sora because he contributes a large amount to it.
 
Soupywolf5 said:
A skill gap doesn't prevent Goku from underestimating Woody. Why is this still going?
And again SBA he's in character to try and kill Woody or incap. Not to mention literally all the votes were before Kaioken was unresteicted.
 
Hst master said:
And again SBA he's in character to try and kill Woody. Not to mention literally all the votes were before Kaioken was unresteicted.
Then restart the match from another thread, as I doubt just saying this alone will make the voters change the vote accordingly.
 
Then restart the match from another thread, as I doubt just saying this alone will make the voters change the vote accordingly.

It would considered the previous FRA invalid, as the whole wincons of the match had changed considerably. Plus literally the literal only argument for Woody was AP, which has been countered. Not to mention Woody wouldn't know to beat him before Kaioken.
 
The votes for Woody were not just for AP. They were initially for AP, Woody's resistance to pain, and type 2 immortality, and then Goku underestimating Woody was brought up
 
And Goku wouldn't know to open with KaioKen, before a 6.5x AP advantage blasts through him.
 
And even after KaioKen was brought up nobody changed their vote (Ok well 1 person did), which seems to indicate that everyone is still voting for Woody anyway (Also 2 people voted Woody after KaioKen was added)
 
Hst master said:
Soupywolf5 said:
A skill gap doesn't prevent Goku from underestimating Woody. Why is this still going?
And again SBA he's in character to try and kill Woody or incap. Not to mention literally all the votes were before Kaioken was unresteicted.
Yes he's willing to kill but he's still in character SBA doesn't prevent him from underestimating the Woody doll trying to kill him
 
Soupywolf5 said:
The votes for Woody were not just for AP. They were initially for AP, Woody's resistance to pain, and type 2 immortality, and then Goku underestimating Woody was brought up
Still he has an AP advantage and like Buzz is somewhat resistant to pain not to mention the obvious equalizations in speed as Woody should have blitzed by now, So Woody just Yeethaws the hell out of Kakacarrotcake?

This is the vote that everyone else FRA'd off of. It's soley via AP and resistance to pain. His Type 2 is useless since all that means is he'll still be alive he's decapitated or something, which is still incap. And you and Blue are the ones who brought up him underestimating Woody, which gets taken care of by SBA, and if he underestimate him, yeeting him into outer space(Which he has zero way to come back from as Rocket Ruckus's range is terrible).

And Goku wouldn't know to open with KaioKen, before a 6.5x AP advantage blasts through him.

And this has already been addressed as well. He can

A. Use Kaioken while beaten half to death

B. Has better skill and can dodge as speed is equal

C. Woody's not a projectile and doesn't lead with his Fire Cracker.
 
Pretty sure you already voted (And grace ended 2 hours ago)

They'd have to revote. and it'd be if they do.
 
Except Goku likely wouldn't just yeet him into space (And while Rocket Ruckus's range is terrible it would still stop his momentum and keep him from being yeeteded)
 
Soupywolf5 said:
And even after KaioKen was brought up nobody changed their vote (Ok well 1 person did), which seems to indicate that everyone is still voting for Woody anyway (Also 2 people voted Woody after KaioKen was added)
Because 1 person actually came back. Not that they're still voting for woody. That's not how that works, FRA's for an invalid argument aren't just trasnfered.
 
Except there's nothing wrong with the AP argument as it's still the main reason for Woody winning more reasons were just brought up alongside it
 
Soupywolf5 said:
Except Goku likely wouldn't just yeet him into space (And while Rocket Ruckus's range is terrible it would still stop his momentum and keep him from being yeeteded)
And no, it wouldn't. He'd already be in the atmosphere. And even if he could, he wouldn't simply land back in Central Park.
 
It doesn't matter where he lands as he could just get back utilizing his MFTL+ speed, also Woody would be able to react fast enough to not go that far (And that's if Goku can actually grab him)
 
Soupywolf5 said:
Except there's nothing wrong with the AP argument as it's still the main reason for Woody winning more reasons were just brought up alongside it
And Goku wouldn't know to open with KaioKen, before a 6.5x AP advantage blasts through him.

And this has already been addressed as well. He can

A. Use Kaioken while beaten half to death

B. Has better skill and can dodge as speed is equal

C. Woody's not a projectile and doesn't lead with his Fire Cracker

^ There's a lot wrong with AP GG argument. It's also ignoring Goku has flight.

And no one voted for the other reasons which are negligible anyway.
 
Soupywolf5 said:
It doesn't matter where he lands as he could just get back utilizing his MFTL+ speed, also Woody would be able to react fast enough to not go that far (And that's if Goku can actually grab him)
Dude. Gregory is a thing. Saying he won't be able to tag woody is faulty. And Goku's throwing him at MFTL speeds. Speed is Equal. He'd be in the upper atmosphere before he can do anything in which case he can't get back.
 
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