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Wonder woman Upgrades

Nathanieltalon42

Nathanieltalon42

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The rebirth wonder woman page needs a lot of upgrades. First of all, rebirth connects post and pre flashpoint, so the two should be one and the same right now. (meaning upgrade her to MFTL++ and solar system level(or higher))

Secondly: current wonder woman can a) heal instantaneously and b) warp reality.

She needs updates!
 
Well, the problem is that Post-Rebirth Wonder Woman does not seem to have the same origin, nature and history as either the Post-Crisis or Post-Flashpoint Wonder Women, but I agree that she should scale from Superman, who is currently 4-B again.
 
We do not have a profile for her at the moment though.
 
Antvasima said:
We do not have a profile for her at the moment though.
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while i see what you are saying she does share origins with post flashpoint wonder woman(both are still children of zeus. And it was stated in the beginning of the WW rebirth comic that she was experiencing changes and memories of things she had never experienced.

The same thing happened with superman(before he got to 4B level) he had to have his vibrational/dimensional frequency adjusted by swamp thing(in superman annual #1)

Wonder woman was undergoing something similar in the rebirth comic.

However: here is my proof of her becoming stronger.

https://plus.google.com/u/0/108103757904944694254/posts/R1JaWCnDFME

^ insane soul hax

https://plus.google.com/u/0/108103757904944694254/posts/G4ciaZsiJdp

^ healing

https://plus.google.com/u/0/108103757904944694254/posts/CmqNjdHEJok

my rationale explaining her reality warping
 
We do not know her statistics for certain yet though.
 
not for sure. But can you mind telling me why you dont accept the reality warping?

in the past her lasso has been shown to affect reality

and just recently she just used it do some reality warping

also her healing there is pretty insane. I mean even if you dont necessarily agree with my reasoning for that healing factor, id like to hear your reasoning

same with the reality warping
 
We need explicit straightforward examples to base any such inclusions from, and Wonder Woman is generally not remotely portrayed as able to freely change reality on a whim.

Also, please fix the structure of your posts. I repeatedly had to clean them up.
 
cAntvasima said:
We need explicit straightforward examples to base any such inclusions from, and Wonder Woman is generally not remotely portrayed as able to freely change reality on a whim.
Also, please fix the structure of your posts. I repeatedly had to clean them up.
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clearly they are new feats. Its a new upgrade
 
Well, reality warping would be extreme hyperbole, and I do not see her manipulating souls. Regenerationn is fine, but doesn't she have better examples of it?
 
From the scans, I don't see anything with her using reality warping or any mind/soul hax. Just her using the lasso to negate the effects of whatever Barbatos did to her and Superman, So I guess it would be realty warp negation with the lasso or reality warp resistance? Would that be accepted?
 
Well, it is some form of resistance to things that the lasso interprets as lies imposed on reality, so maybe.
 
barbatos puts people into a mind/soul trance

also what the **** would you categorize warping someones genes as?

Especially considering that when the lasso broke reality literally fell apart
 
Nathanieltalon42 said:
barbatos puts people into a mind/soul trance
also what the **** would you categorize warping someones genes as?

Especially considering that when the lasso broke reality literally fell apart
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resistance to mind/soul hax

that can be interpreted as anything, and wiping away someone's gene modification isn't something as grandiose as altering the fabric of reality since it's really just erasing a gene modification. But I guess limited reality warping for things that are considered lies would be an appropriate listing.

Is there a scan for that last statement.

And you should probably calm down on the nerves, no need to start getting heated and why do you have to have so much spacing between your sentences?
 
Anyway, the lasso more seems capable of applying a cleansing effect on minds and bodies (unfortunately I am not sure if we have an appropriate powers & abilities page for this, but would appreciate suggestions), but reality warping is a much more versatile ability.

Are there any better examples of her resisting a being that explicitly uses it?
 
Nathanieltalon42 said:
barbatos puts people into a mind/soul trance
also what the **** would you categorize warping someones genes as?

Especially considering that when the lasso broke reality literally fell apart
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The second one is probably Biological Manip honestly.
 
When two equally valid truths are in conflict with each other http://imgur.com/a/QDgy In this case the unraveling of truth will reacquire like it did in
JLA: Golden Perfect story arc. http://www.comicvine.com/golden-perfect/4045-57221/issues/.
The Lasso of Truth broke when she faced Rama Khan. http://imgur.com/a/QDgy This led to serious ramifications on reality itself. Because when the Lasso of Truth broke. The truth in reality did as well. Magically warping it to go nuts. Here is the explanation Batman gave on it. http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/12/121335/2383885-29oo114_1_.jpg

Here is what happened to the universe because of this.
- 2 + 1 = 4 http://i.imgur.com/uu5IcD3.jpg - The earth became the center of the universe http://i.imgur.com/aOz4GSz.jpg - Kyle Rayner turned into Hal Jordan http://i.imgur.com/1CKHRbY.jpg - Flash gets sick because people don't understand relativity and Batman is fading out of existence http://i.imgur.com/3yc65Rc.jpg - Moon turned to cheese http://i.imgur.com/8ueg5SB.jpg - Justice System Broke http://i.imgur.com/8gvGQth.jpg All this happened because two equally valid truths were in conflict with each other.
This is something to consider. Although many fans neglect the events of what happened in this story.

Sorry for being heated. But thats what happened when the lasso broke. Sorry for not explaining myself clearly beforehand. But no she cant just change anything she wants, but she can change things that she considers not to be true(as evidenced by the fact that the truth became subjective when her lasso broke. Logically that means that her lasso, and by association diana herself, is an embodiment of truth. So it stands to reason that with her connection to the truth and the fact that she has warped things that she considers to be untrue, that she can change things that go against "the truth")

Make sense?
 
its also worth noting that Diana uses the lasso to heal others from mind/soul hax, so while its definitely just resistance(although there are other examples of her tying up a soul, which i can post later) her cleansing is worth adding to her profile
 
I also read the Rama Khan story long ago, but think that it must be considered as a plot convenience outlier for the lasso.

However, I think that it should be fine to add that Wonder Woman can cleanse the bodies, minds and souls of people who have been distorted from their true natures.
 
Well, we have to decide the level of Regenerationn, and also decide whether we should place these new abilities in the Post-Crisis WW page, the Post-Flashpoint WW page, or a new Post-Rebirth profile altogether.

It is probably best if somebody asks Matthew to comment here.
 
Pretty sure Post Crisis is fine with the planned mergers for the DC characters due to the nature of Rebirth, maybe put it as a separate key?
 
Well, her origin is very different compared to the Post-Crisis version.
 
True but characters having their origins retconned isnt exactly new in the world of comics. Seriously its happened to Spiderman, Batmanetc and there been no prior issue with the origins being changed (Year One VS Zero Year and all that)
 
I am uncertain how much of her Post-Crisis history that is still intact.
 
The thread is discussing whether or not to Upgrade Rebirth Diana to 4-B for the reasons he listed as well as the addition of new powers.
 
We are discussing whether we should create a new profile for the Post-Rebirth version of Wonder Woman, who has a different background than both the Post-Crisis and Post-Flashpoint incarnations, and also list some new powers for her.
 
Okay. Do you note down all of your upcoming tasks into a list, so you do not forget them?
 
Noting down the related CR threads in conjunction would also be useful.
 
Okay. That is good. I have a notepad text file where I write down my own unfinished tasks.
 
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