why is Void Termina only 4-A

[ZeroTwo64]

ye, it is

 

[The_Causality]

Void is Void Termina, and also probably is Kirby as well. But existing in all dimensions isn't a feat.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

If he was the void of the universe, maybe, but he's not. It's just that he's Lavos-esque

I will say that Void Termina, if we were to take everything completely literally (which we shouldn't imo), would've destroyed everything in less than a day, as there's be no more tomorrows.

 

[Eficiente]

All of this just "looks cool" but none of it are tier 3 or 2 feats.

 

[ZeroTwo64]

Well, if we consider that characters like Marx, Magolor and Dark Meta Knight came to help Kirby, it wouldn't be surprising if Void Termina can destroy everything in less than a day.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Magolor's Kirby's friend as of Dream Collection. Him coming to help isn't hard to believe. Dark Meta Knight just wants that power for himself. Marx is the anomaly, but I have a theory that would justify him coming to help, and it relates to his friendship with Magolor.

 

[Kirby71]

Don't forget the fact that a jamba heart probably corrupted one of those universes.

 

[ZeroTwo64]

Anyways, it's late here.

gtg

bye

 

[Eficiente]

https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/2321005

 

[Seol404]

I don't understand why Magolor (With the Master Crown) isn't at least 3-B, since Another Dimension has been proven to contain multiple galaxies. His page says that he didn't control the entirety of Another Dimension but I don't recall this ever being stated anywhere, so it seems like headcanon

 

[Wokistan]

Outlier is why iirc

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Its never stated that he did control all of AD though, and the burden of proof is on me (because if anyone's gonna upgrade Kirby, it's me) to prove that he did rather than the inverse.

 

[Seol404]

It seems like its just ignoring lore to give him a rating which fits with the rest of the verse

 

[Elizhaa]

It seems like its just ignoring lore to give him a rating which fits with the rest of the verse

To be honest, most of the evidences were without scans iniatially.

 

[Seol404]

Yeah, but we got evidence now, do we not?

 

[Arceus0x]

this is getting interesting. imma just wait and see what happends. i personally hope that void gets a 2-C rating and scales.

 

[Eficiente]

Yeah, but we got evidence now, do we not?

We don't on either him controlling all of AD or his defeat causing the collapse of all of AD.

If I only had the Jap manual of the game everything would be different. Jap Kirby manuals elaborate things widely, including name and description of the attacks of the final bosses. Magolor has one called "Another Dimension" which is the one where he throws space and small galaxies at you, that alone could make him 3-A.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

I'm sorry, what?? Why didn't you tell me this sooner? I'd have looked for the manual aeons ago

 

[TriforcePower1]

Poor Shiro who will probably translate it lol

 

[Eficiente]

@Cal I'm... Pretty sure I told you this before. In any case, this is the type of stuff I have to deal with alone (which I do by not doing anything) as the manual could have nothing.

 

[TriforcePower1]

@Efi

I think he can help you. He already translated half of the ALTTP manual already lol

 

[Eficiente]

The problem is buying/obtaining the manual, which... you know. I don't think anyone here has spent real money only to maybe upgrade a verse.

 

[TriforcePower1]

Internet scans? How is the manual called?

 

[Eficiente]

『µÿƒÒü«Òé½Òâ╝ÒâôÒéú WiiÒÇÇÒüïÒéôÒü║ÒüìÒéÁÒâØÒâ╝ÒâêÒé¼ÒéñÒâë』

I would say I already tried everything, a long time ago.

 

[Niarobi_(Formerly_Hadou)]

I'd like to correct Cal on his Marx theory, because Marx still opposes Kirby at the end of Star Allies, as a final boss keeping Kirby from having his happy ending.

 

[Niarobi_(Formerly_Hadou)]

『µÿƒÒü«Òé½Òâ╝ÒâôÒéú WiiÒÇÇÒüïÒéôÒü║ÒüìÒéÁÒâØÒâ╝ÒâêÒé¼ÒéñÒâë』

I would say I already tried everything, a long time ago.

I feel the same way with the light novels.

 

[Elizhaa]

I will be honest about the text evidence above it would be better to have the text from a scan; the title of the novel would also help.

 

[Elizhaa]

Other evidence for Tier High 3-A or Tier 2

• Big Bang Kirby.
  • A source for the Translation

 

[Eficiente]

Vegeta has an attack named Big Bang, doesn't mean it's High 3-A. Unless we have an statement saying it has the power of a real big bang this is nothing.

If everyone had free access to Jap manuals I would had checked that years ago.

 

[Elizhaa]

Context is everything. we all could see that Vegeta's attack is not a Big Bang since he had no feats to such as level and the attack description is different from the Big Bang.

My context is that verse looks to have possibly Tier 3 and 2 feats, all I wanted to do is to post the evidence to get them evaluated.

In this case, if there disagreement, there is the scan. All that is needed is to make sure it is accurate.

 

[Elizhaa]

Eficiente, Do you know the title of the Japanese manual, maybe one person here has or can get it.

 

[Eficiente]

https://kirby.fandom.com/ja/wiki/星のカービィ_トリプルデラックス#.E6.94.BB.E7.95.A5.E6.9C.AC

 

[QuasiYuri]

If everyone had free access to Jap manuals I would had checked that years ago.

Isn't there a website of Nintendo that has the pdf of many manuals?

 

[Eficiente]

Iirc it's only in english, italian, french, espa├▒ol, etc.

 

[Ovrhide]

If Void does get a much higher rating, does it apply only to void, or does void termina get its rating?

 

[Eficiente]

Why would it get a higher rating? He has nothing.

 

[Ovrhide]

Why would it get a higher rating? He has nothing.

The name of this thread allows me to ask said question...

 

[Eficiente]

I forgot he had this. But he gets nothing from the stuff in this thread.

 

[Ovrhide]

Then what is this upgrade stuff yall talking about with scans then?

 

[Arceus0x]

i hope next game will have clear feats. im tiered of all the outliers.