Why exactly is Gan not Tier 0?

[Antvasima]

Don't forget to add an explanation in a note at the bottom of the page.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Okay, glad we reached an agreement.

 

[MrKingOfNegativity]

Before I forget, what do we do about Los's key? Should it remain Unknown? Or is the feat of 'High 1-B level existence erasure not completely erasing him' enough to warrant a High 1-B rating of his own?

Mind you, both Gan and Bessa's avatars (the Tower and the Rose, respectively) are High 1-B, and the two were fairly crucial in Los's defeat. The evidence seems to point towards the King's avatar being similar in power to them, albeit slightly weaker.

 

[Aeyu]

I agree, given that even the gifted power of an At least High 1-B, possibly 1-A being was not able to fully erase his form.

I agree with this, and think that a High 1-B key should be added to Gan and to Bessa as well for each of their respective physical forms.

 

[Antvasima]

Bessa does not have a page here, but I thought that you would adjust both Gan and the Crimson King.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

There's no harm in making a page for Bessa tho.

 

[Antvasima]

Agreed. Feel free to do so.

 

[Jockey-1337]

The Crimson King is limited by the Tower.


http://stephenking.com/promo/dt_release_log/lrh5/2_comp.jpg


And Gan simply exist in the highest floor.


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[Matthew_Schroeder]

He exists beyond the tower and so predates it.

 

[Jockey-1337]

Read the 1st scan please. The Crimson King has to ask mortal to help him.

 

[Aeyu]

I have created a page for Bessa. I would appreciate it if I could receive help determining her powers and abilities.

 

[Antvasima]

Here is her page in the Dark Tower wiki:

http://darktower.wikia.com/wiki/Bessa

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

The same as Gan's since they are exactly the same in power and importance.

This would be a good picture:

https://img00.deviantart.net/72c4/i/2006/008/4/a/the_rose_and_the_tower_by_museofthenight.jpg

 

[Niarobi_(Formerly_Hadou)]

There's no key on Bessa's page.

 

[Aeyu]

It's not done.

 

[Niarobi_(Formerly_Hadou)]

Alrighty, I understand. Just informing you, I do understand how troublesome making pages can be. :3

 

[Aeyu]

It's done, and can be locked, I guess, unless there's anything to add.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

The Crimson King's page should be improved with stuff from this page:

https://forums.spacebattles.com/thr...feats-and-source-thread.314640/#post-15428663

 

[Antvasima]

I will lock Bessa's page then. Should I do the same to Gan?

 

[Aeyu]

That sounds reasonable. I have likely also finished adding what Matt suggested.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. So should I lock the Crimson King's page as well?

 

[Aeyu]

Since I have corrected all mistakes that I can observe, I think so.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. Is there anything left to do here, or should I close this thread?

 

[Aeyu]

I think all of the questions/queries have been answered, and that the thread should be closed unless anyone else has something to say.

 

[MrKingOfNegativity]

I should probably point this out before we conclude this.

Unless I'm mistaken, Patrick Danville already had reality warping powers of his own prior to his attempts to erase the King. Bessa/the Rose didn't give them to him; she simply amplified what he already had.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay.